I think it really comes down to turn over, a dealer that turns over their inventory in a few weeks or even a couple of months, there is no problem. Some small dealers are very good at making sure their stock, even if it's only 2-3 boxes is kept fairly fresh. This can be accomplished by simply...
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I think that there are a few problems with the proposition, the first being that mandating refrigerated storage for B+W materials would be a major change that runs counter to decades of recommended practice. But what if they did, a good question is, "would dealers acquiesce or would they...
I think your asking for something that already exists. IIRC, I don't have any paper boxes around at the moment, there is an emulsion number printed on the label of the box, and Ilford would have records of when that batch was made, when it was coated, etc. These records are likely kept for a...
No doubt that Ilford really care about their customers, even a director like Simon, willing to write in this our lovely Apug.
In my first wrote I just ask to Ilford to publish the code like this: Batch 64 D October 2001
11 B May 1997
15 E September 1997
27 E September 1998
in Their website, so...
Hi,
I just obtained 2 boxes of discontinued Forte Fortezo.
On the box it says:
Glossy
Smooth Double Weight
Normal
Tropical
FN4
According to the data sheet this paper was available in special, normal and hard gradation. Searching around I also found Grade 2,3 and 4 as different way...
Paper certainly has been date coded. If I remember correctly, Kodak did this to the end, and so did Agfa. (The box of MCP I have in the basement has an expiry date on it, to be sure.)
I'e never seen a package of Ilfordpaper that did have a date, and I bought my first pack in the early 1980s...
Oh, I understand what the store owner is SUPPOSED to do. But the fact of the matter is that they have no incentive to keep their stock fresh if the customer is unable to tell fresh stock from dated. I see absolutely no difference between dating film and dating paper in this regard. As I said...
Your totally forgetting that there is a big onus on a store owner, who is after all responsible for his stock, the normal practice is to discount items that are stuck on a shelf to encourage buyers and create a turnover.
Photo papers have never openly carried a date stamp, they shouldn't need...
I have difficult time, when in my country bw products become dissapear, only 1 or 2 shop sell film and paper, and when i want to buy ilfordpaper there's no expired date, recently I purchased 3 roll of paper 127x30m, when I try to print it got bad fog on it, maybe if Ilford published the batch...
The problem with most of this stuff is that it seemed that only Kodak was interested in the technology, the camera companies only had eyes for digital. What they didn't realise is that if they would have pushed this kind of thing, everyone would have been replacing cameras to get this new...
Well we have had fun trying to sort this one out ! :
We can date this to the early 50's : Its not in any of our TI books ( very rare ) it also has a non standard batch number ( if it had had a normal code we could still have dated it to the month of coating ). We are pretty sure therefore its...
I have two sealed boxes of this paper, 11 inches by 100 feet. Says "Open in Dark Room Only" and "Ilford Panchromatic Bromide, Waterproof Base" No date, but it is stamped with dots; the code: 252BE. Feb. 1952, perhaps?
I am wondering what exactly this is and what it is good for. I have a...
Sorry to hear of your problem. There is little worse that that sinking feeling in the darkroom when it dawns on you that you have a problem that may be beyond rescuing. Although you bought fairly recently in Sept 2006, doesn't the paper have to be much older due to the collapse of Agfa? I wonder...
Hmm...in October you spoke with Freestyle and they said they would ship Ifochrome chemicals, and last week I spoke to them and they said they cant or wont. I call that confusion.
Last week I called Calumet and the salesman told me P3 was discontinued and gone forever, and I confirmed with...
Thanks John. The film is definitely 125. It says so on the backing paper. The Kodak logo is in yellow and serif. The end backing paper when the film is wound off after exposure is a red/crimson colour. At the beginning there are simple instructions along the "sunny f16" rule and these are in...
Modern papers have a 2/3 year life after which they fog. They started adding chemicals so they did not have to be aged in inventory after coating and the end user got shafted.
Older paper can last decades. I have some expired in 1968 that still works, Kodak Medalist.
Ilford dates the...
George Eastman House has curators with that type of knowledge. But, you might call the EK toll free number.
Early films had all information on the box. Nothing was on the film but Kodak Safety Film and sometimes a product name.
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PE. I am glad you started this thread. It has prompted me to repeat a question I asked about Verichrome Pan recently but got no answers. I developed a roll of 120 Verichrome Pan which another APUGer stated that as it has crimson backing paper with yellow writing he knew it to be from around the...
Sorry to be like a dog with a bone here but I'd like to see if a further check is possible on the age of my Verichrome Pan film. It does have the crimson backing paper and the yellow writing which Claes tells me means it was dated sometime between the late 50s to early 60s
Can anyone tell me...
Thomas, Ilford used to use a letter & number code for the date of production so something like E72 would indicate 1972.
I've seen that mottling pattern before on film stored badly, in humid conditions seems to be where it contacts the backing paper.
Glad to hear those rolls of APX25/APX100...
I've just liberated some old photographic paper from my father's attic and was wondering if anyone can tell me anything about it ? For example how old it might be, what type of paper it is and what's the best way to develop it.
There's a couple of boxes of Kodak Velox, WSG.1S and WSG.3S. The...
I think that you should all be aware of the fact that the profit margin on digital products is lower, and there are more companies in the business. Therefore, per unit sold, there is less money to go around, so to speak. The profit margin on film and paper was rather high in comparison and the...
The interest was nil? In a product they didn't know existed?
Go figure!
:)
Not really, since MOST of the market, via representative sampling, was NOT apprised of the product's existence!
Look, they've got my name and address. They've sent me samples of film. (Sometimes they even...
Anti-fogging agent.
When I attended our local arts school for night classes in advanced darkroom techniques the instructor was kind enough to give the students a special "code number" to allow us access to the schools supply store. I purchased 4 boxes of Ilford MG paper (2 semi-matt,1 glossy...
Efke film does not have the bar codes on the paper as some other films. In the Contax an automatic infrared system senses the bar code at the beginning of a roll of film and starts the frame counter at the proper place on the film.
If you are using brands of film without bar codes you must...
#1. I have a bunch of small bottles that hold a little over 200mL (although I use the brown glass chem bottles 'cause I get them free from work, the SunnyDelight bottles from the grocery store are perfect). When I mix up a liter of film developer I divvy it evenly into 5 bottles. I top them off...
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