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  1. Alan Edward Klein

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    Alaris's lawyers would certainly have something to say.
  2. Anon Ymous

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    Spot on...
  3. brbo

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    And we can see how there is absolutely no demand for bulk rolls where Kodak doesn't allow "civilians" to order even 400ft rolls of cine film, ccc... People would bankrupt Alaris if EK sold 100ft (or even 400ft) rolls of Gold, Portra and Ektar at cine film prices.
  4. brbo

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    Price increase - Kodak Alaris. Film production updates - Eastman Kodak.

  5. Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    Didn’t Kodak just announce a price increase for 2025? I think I read somewhere (will look for it) that prices on most films will increase. Something like 5% on Portra, 30% on Gold, something similar for TMax. But lower prices on TriX for some reason. I’ll get back when I find it. Edit: I...
  6. MattKing

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    ...Then at the time of the bankruptcy, marketing responsibility for what we call still "film" was transferred over to what became Kodak Alaris, at which time EK became a much, much, much smaller entity, and all that communication responsibility went to Kodak Alaris. It was that huge reduction in...
  7. MattKing

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    I don't know the answer to your question, but I would be surprised if Kodak Alaris didn't communicate related information to the distributors they deal with in Japan. Who in turn would have most likely communicated with retailers. That information pathway - through the distribution network...

  8. Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    Except 8x10 320TXP, which is a regular catalog item. I don't know whether retailers must order a minimum quantity from Kodak Alaris, but consumers can always purchase single 10-sheet boxes at retail.
  9. Alan Edward Klein

    Eastman Kodak temporarily paused all film production - to upgrade manufacturing plant (Nov 2024)

    ...three years, with positions still open. It's cold in Rochester, NY, if you need a job. Interestingly, one-time cameras have grown a lot for Gen X and Millenials. This bodes well for Kodak Alaris, their world-wide sole distributor, especially since Kodak stopped third-party respooling of photo...

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    Freshest Film Stocks UK

    Good points.
  11. Agulliver

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    Freshest Film Stocks UK

    ...was a period a few years ago when Kodak 120 film was suffering badly with backing paper issues. I discussed this with Andy Church at Kodak Alaris back in 2020 and he was confident the problem had been solved and at that point in time the last batch of "bad" film would have recently expired...
  12. Alex Benjamin

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    Kodak price increase, and reduction, for 2025

    From Kosmo foto https://kosmofoto.com/2024/11/kodak-alaris-announces-price-rises-for-january-2025-but-tri-x-is-getting-cheaper/
  13. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Maybe Alaris's new owners should buy Eastman's film division, or the whole company. After all, the new Alaris owners are in Los Angeles, where Hollywood is located, and producers buy movie films from Eastman directly. If I were the new owner, I would want to control Kodak film manufacturing, not...
  14. Cholentpot

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Seeing the writing on the wall of the future of film but pointing to a generation old contract and forcing the supplier to stick to it is a bad way to protect the future of that business. It's not 2008 anymore. The world of photography has had a massive shift. Almost as big as the shift from...
  15. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Despite Alaris's contract with Eastman, nothing is stopping them from licensing Kodak to sell film to others, including CInestill, for re-spooling into whatever photo film they want. They could license Eastman to sell Kodak film under the Ilford brand. Maybe that's why Eastman is upgrading...
  16. Cholentpot

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Harmon was taken over by enthusiasts. Think of how Polaroid was resurrected. I know nothing of the investment firm that Kodak is dealing with but I do know if they were die hard film folks we would have known by now. People like to have choices, they like variety and multiple avenues of...
  17. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    By your rationale the main problem is Cinestill given their volume. Evidently Eastman has seen the opportunity to work outside of the contractual agreement with Alaris. I don't think they remove remjet. The same is true for modified/remjet-less Vision3. Even more so. Good question. I...

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Instead of playing corporate, legal hard arses, Alaris might want to look at why this respooling activity has mushroomed over recent years and address that. I would put down to 1- Pricing, 2- Availability, 3- Choice. Availability is in the hands of EK coupled with increased demand and not...
  19. Cholentpot

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Investment firms tend to drive businesses into the ground trying to flail every drop of cash out of it before leaving a deflated corpse behind. I don't trust they know what they're doing. They see a short term opportunity to make some quick cash off what is seen as a flash in the pan trend...
  20. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    You don't really know what Eastman would do without Alaris contract. They could use other middlemen who already distribute competitors' films to stores around the world. If that happened, the prices might be cheaper to final users as us. I once held exclusive distribution rights in NYC for a...
  21. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Alaris was bought last summer for millions by a private investment firm in California. I assume they did their homework and expect to make money from it. I also suspect it was the new owners who told Eastman to stop selling movie film that's converted to still film by third parties or they...
  22. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    ...considerably more people all around the world than the photographic film parts of Eastman Kodak. And if Eastman Kodak somehow made Kodak Alaris disappear, they would have to turn around and either contract with someone else to do what Kodak Alaris does, or increase their expenses hugely -...
  23. Cholentpot

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    'What Eastman earns has no effect on Alaris's bottom line' Great, so Eastman should sell film under the Eastman label and Alaris can fly a kite. Business doesn't get locked down forever because of an agreement 20 odd years ago. At some point the markets have changed, revisit the contract and...
  24. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    It's bad enough that Alaris has to compete with Ilford. So now they should also compete with Eastman, their exclusive supplier. You are arguing it does not matter to Eastman because it's all their film is true. But what's not true is that Alaris makes its money from distribution. Alaris is a...
  25. Cholentpot

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Because it's bad for the overall field of film. The more people shooting film the better. This is not a market where you can afford to kill off a segment. When my stock of short ends runs out I'm done shooting color. There are many I personally know just like me. Either they shoot shortends or...
  26. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    That argument would also apply to other minor operations and private individuals repurposing motion picture film for still photography. Yet, they're specifically being targeted with this new policy. We don't know the nature of the deals that these minor players have with Eastman. I personally...
  27. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    It's business, not games. Alaris has exclusive rights from Eastman to sell their 35mm photo film. When Eastman sells cine film converted to 35mm photo film by third parties, it violates their agreement with Alaris, reducing Alaris' sales and profits. If your employer gave 10% of your salary to...
  28. koraks

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    What's the difference between 'unofficial' respoolers and Cinestill, apart from the likely much larger volume of the latter compared to the combined former? It's still a massive channel conflict that reduces financial returns on the production operation.

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    My opinion is that it's not in Eastman Kodak's or Kodak Alaris' best interest to have unofficial (???) spoolers selling repackaged movie film. Cinestill has established itself as a major player, they're not at risk. On the pension, sounds like EK made some $$$ playing in the stock market and...
  30. MattKing

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    Kodak no longer selling E100D directly to customers?

    Unless there are specific exceptions in the agreement, Kodak Alaris owns the rights to market and distribute Kodak branded still film. They paid hundreds of millions of dollars for that, and assumed liabilities worth probably that much as well.
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