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  1. Alan Edward Klein

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    That would happen only if the same tariffs are applied in all the countries that make film. If the US has tariffs only, then more Americans would buy Kodak as foreign film costs more. But in the UK, for example, the prices remain the same as they were for both Kodak and British film.
  2. rhmimac

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    Prediction: US analog film buyers will be heading more to Kodak/Alaris products, EU and Asian film buyers will return more to EU/UK & Asian. So there will be more products available for each in each market? So it could be pushing prices back downwards ( in the end/ as long as tarriffs hold on)...

  3. A
    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    I suspect that Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris are concerned what will happen to sales in China. Now China can produce film and paper domestically.
  4. brbo

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    That was exactly my point. Alaris is busting EK's b***, of a $20 Ektar roll EK is not getting even close to $10. Not even close. So a dollar of increase in production (at worse - if EK is importing all of the ingredients and have to pay their people more because tariffs will bring inflation to...
  5. MattKing

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    ...have reliable information that indicates that it is generally true. Eastman Kodak has been struggling with major increases in their input costs, along with availability issues, and each such factor is something that management's policies require them to incorporate in their price to Kodak...
  6. MattKing

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    The end price is very sensitive to production costs. As well as the very substantial costs of distribution. All of which will be at the very least disrupted as trade is disrupted.
  7. brbo

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    Tariffs and Film and Paper prices

    I doubt that every component Kodak uses in film production is made in USA, so production price WILL go up. Good news is that Kodak film price is really not dictated by production costs, but by Alaris markup. Consumers outside USA living in countries that will employ retaliatory tariffs will, of...
  8. Sirius Glass

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    XTOL failure

    That gives some incite into how old my replenished XTOL is. I still have some unopened bags if XTOL from Kodak left. Also that gives credence to the effectivity and effectiveness of the StopLossBagsTM that I recommend.
  9. warden

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    XTOL failure

    Matt do you know if Ilford went through a similar merry-go-round of supplier issues during this timeframe? Your description of these supplier/quality issues (which are not Kodak's fault entirely but of course damage customer confidence since their name is on the package) and my personal repeated...
  10. MattKing

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    XTOL failure

    ...than was Eastman Kodak, although by that time they had stopped doing the manufacture themselves. After the bankruptcy in 2012, it was Kodak Alaris, but of course they too weren't doing the manufacturing. When Tetenal went bankrupt, Kodak Alaris had to scramble to replace many of the chemical...
  11. Sirius Glass

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    XTOL failure

    I found that for me, Ilford films needed one minute added to the 20 degree C time and then adjusted for temperature.
  12. runswithsizzers

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    XTOL failure

    ...time Xtol has produced thin negatives for me was several years ago -- also with Fuji Acros -- but that batch of Xtol was recalled by Kodak Alaris/Sino Promise, so discovered to be a problem. I have a bag of the newer Xtol from Photo Systems, so I hope it is OK. I have started doing a quick...

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    Ilford Delta 100 compared with Kodak TMax 100

    I remember that now, it's coming back to me, the backing paper needed to be changed, the old paper was acting like a carbon paper so to speak. It wasn't all that long ago either if I remember correctly, wasn't it around 2013 or maybe a bit earlier? Not that it matters now, it's all fixed. I do...
  14. MattKing

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    Ilford Delta 100 compared with Kodak TMax 100

    ...involved were doing at the time - the effort was massive, it cost a huge amount of money, it nearly forced both Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris out of the 120 film business, and the final result was a proprietary replacement for the old style of backing paper that is a closely guarded trade...
  15. Alan Edward Klein

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Well, the Brits also ride on the wrong side of the street so anything could happen, and did. :)
  16. MattKing

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    ...came up with a plan to keep most of Kodak's film business operating - the marketing and distribution businesses that were eventually Kodak Alaris - and to allow the other parts of the business to keep operating as well. Those other parts included the remaining, relatively small part of...
  17. MattKing

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Eastman Kodak is the one with the issues. The 220 equipment was worn out, and the minimum order requirements for the leaders and trailers were many years worth of supply - far more capital tied up than the corporate management would agree to. Tied up capital concerns motivate everything. The...
  18. Prest_400

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    ...who was in direct contact with Tim Ryugo of Kodak, with the question of 220. Not much details but 220 appears as not possible from Kodak Alaris' side. I wonder if they even mothballed whatever 220 finishing equipment they might have had. Fuji were the latest to offer the format but I guess we...
  19. Prest_400

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    I've had the interesting experience of being a millenial that picked up film during the digital revolution and great recession, so bridge the experience of legacy cheap film with digital as a substitute to have become a very valued media for its qualities and flaws as well as getting high price...
  20. Alan Edward Klein

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    But you're arguing against your own point. Film isn't water. Ask the people who live in the desert. No water, no life. Digital is a substitute for film. BW is a substitute for color. Life will go on. 99% of film users already left for digital before film prices escalated. How does any film...
  21. Alan Edward Klein

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Existing film companies could invest in color if they see they can make money in it. So that's on Eastman's and ALaris's minds when they raise prices. They don't want to invite competition. If Alaris can be bought by a rich private equity firm, so can those other film companies. This is one...

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    I disagree at least partly, because to 1) After Kodak Alaris and Sino Promise failure in the RA-4 market Fujifilm gained their market share in addition completely independent from potential substitute products. Nevertheless Fujifilm has not exploited that lucky situation (for them) by big price...

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    ...factory upgrades should be completed this year). At least Fujifilm as a monopolist is behaving much much more consumer friendly than Kodak Alaris: - Fujifilm has now a de-facto monopoly in silver-halide RA-4 photo paper. But despite that they have kept their prices extremely low. No monopoly...
  24. brbo

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    To be fair, no one has done more damage than Fuji. If it wasn't for Alaris (which enabled Kodak film production to continue and is now expecting to get paid for that) colour film would be effectively dead. We would be fighting to get hold of what shitty film others can produce (at twice the...

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Thanks. Sorry, I have not seen your former postings. What Kodak Alaris is currently doing with exploiting their de-facto monopoly in CN film is almost 100% from the economic textbook / educational book. It is taught in the first semester in micro-economics. For people without economic...

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    ...if the massive price increase of Kodak film will continue in the way of the last 3-4 years. But where this limit is remains to be seen. Kodak Alaris is currently definitely testing the limits, testing the price elasticity to find out how far they can go until shrinking demand will...
  27. koraks

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Yes, you did. But what we disagree on is the willingness of a certain group of photographers to move away to digital for the work they presently do in film. I do agree with you that a decent chunk of people will in fact walk away from film if it just gets too darn expensive. However, looking at...
  28. Alan Edward Klein

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    Kodak went bankrupt because of digital. So much for their near monopoly of the film industry. You're not a monopoly if there are reasonable alternatives. A bicycle isn't an alternative to an automobile. If prices get too high, even dedicated film users will move to the digital alternative.

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    Place the shadow. Place the highlight.

    ...a true speed of 1200 to 1600, but Kodak DX codes it as 3200, it is intended for action not fine arts. I was bit surprised that when Kodak Alaris brought TMax 3200 back to the market that they did not market as 1600, with Delta 3200 still on the market I guess they did want seem to seem as...
  30. koraks

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    Reflx Lab says their respooled films could be discontinued

    For those who want to shoot color film, there's not all that much of an alternative though. It's very close to a strict monopoly, and in practice it pretty much works that way. The fact that digital is an alternative doesn't do away with this fact. If there was only one car manufacturer on the...
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