As long as you don't sell it as being Kodak or "coated by Eastmann Kodak"
I think KodakAlaris has the right to sell "ready to use" film (so 135 cartridges, 120 rolls, sheet film) with Kodak name, but anyone can buy big rolls of film.
Yes, incredibly confusing.
I thought Kentmere was the backdoor brand of Photographer's Warehouse Ultrafine Extreme. I see it also shows up as an independent label on adorma.com .
As has been said about sports, you can't tell the players w/o a program.
...there is a good chance that that manufacturing entity was making some of the post 2019 Kodak branded black and white photo chemistry for KodakAlaris, prior to that business being sold to Sino Promise Holdings.
Confused yet? :)
Photo chemistry is, to a great extent, not made by the entities...
And then there is the situation of Fuji 200 film (Kodak Gold 200). Hard to see how Alaris would get the same profit from this deal since retail price of Fuji 200 is less than Kodak Gold 200. Unless we assume that Fuji is actually loosing money on this film.
Orwo labels their sample shots with "developed in C41" text. Ever heard of Kodak stating that samples of Portra were developed in C-41? This is an ECN-2 cine film sold (also) to still market.
Kodak's revenue from Alaris supply agreement for still film roughly matches that of their cine film...
Eastman Kodak has always been happy to contract coat film that will compete with Kodak film. You just needed a lot of money to make it happen.
And they have never been willing to re-brand current Kodak still film product.
Yet the resulting product is direct competition for Kodak branded film. That should make the penny counters at Alaris upset - unless they get roughly the same profit they normally get. It would be a winning scenario for Alaris. They wouldn't need to package, market, sell, or ship it.
I think that, at least before recent changes, that was probably the situation in the past.
But this new remjetless Cinestill ECN film is more akin to the custom coating that has always been available from Eastman Kodak - if you have the bucks, and aren't selling the result as Kodak still (or...
...$600,000,000.00 to make it possible for Eastman Kodak to emerge from bankruptcy.
In 2020 the Kodak Limited Pension Plan (through KodakAlaris) sold off part of the business that it got - the photo-chemical and colour paper business - because that business was earning less money than the...
Plus financial, the deal was supposed to provide enough money to pay off the Kodak Limited pensions. But there was something about the pension plan having to go to the pension authorities a year or two ago. {which may be the reason for the Sino-Promise deal?) Can't tell the players without a...
My understanding is that there has been some pandemic related disruption to the Eastman Kodak/KodakAlaris relationship. Eastman Kodak has always been able to manufacture and supply custom versions of its movie stock.
we don't know the fine print in that contract, BUT if they are selling 35mm and 62mm pancakes of say 5219 but with the backing omitted, that is likely more an Industrial product than something Alaris might even be interested in Touching.
in the past Kodak did crack down on folks respooling...
Adox do not present a developing-time table on their two websites. Unless the foil bag of XT-3 comes with such table either on the bag or seperately, the uninitiated needs to download it from some KodakAlaris page.
So that you are aware, that is a cached link, and not referenced on the current KodakAlaris site, because they sold the Kodak photochemical business to Sino Promise Holdings in 2020.
The Sino Promise website for the Kodak product business that they bought in 2020 has an expired security...
That comes through KodakAlaris. And that bottleneck is related to a bunch of things that include delays in the "confectioning" part of the process - the sprockets, edge printing, cassetting, etc.
That is compounded by the problems that they continue to have in sourcing materials, and the...
Lower than what? Ilford controls the markup of its manufacturing and distribution process. Kodak and Alaris have no such ability. Kodak charges what they want to Alaris.
Here's an example. Ilford marks up their film 50% to distributors and retailers. That's the full markup including all...
But the point is if Kodak is making extra money for price increases to Alaris, and Alaris adds their own markup to distributors and retailers, the double markups could account for higher Kodak film prices. Ilford only has one markup.
Also, Alaris can do little about Kodak price increases...
I think that the costs are most likely lower because of KodakAlaris.
There were three reasons that Eastman Kodak survived bankruptcy;
1) the bankruptcy trustee got $600,000,000.00 dollars from the Kodak Limited Pension fund;
2) Eastman Kodak was relieved from the super-priority obligation to...
Fuji sells re-labeled Kodak film cheaper than KodakAlaris sells the same film.
I'd take a wild guess and say that Eastman Kodak isn't the main source of film price increases we are seeing, although they do state in their last financial report that higher revenues in segment that includes still...
Thanks Matt for the clarification regarding Sino and Alaris. Do you think that the extra mark-up that Kodak charges Alaris may account for some of the higher costs Alaris gets for the Kodak film?
Your statement would have been stronger if it had read:
You are baising your conclusions too much on the comparatively expensive (at the moment) BW film from Kodak.
...pre-existing distribution business. Since they purchased the Kodak branded photo-chemical and colour photographic business from KodakAlaris, they are now the owners of that business - and that was the business I was referring to when I posted the following (note the "or"):
Matt said...
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