I read on the Flic website, I didn't check every film offered, that there was remjet on the 500T
https://flicfilm.ca/cine-film/
I have no idea how EK handled the Alaris v. Cinestill negotiations. I have no real interest in using movie film when Kodak made color still film is available. Even at...
I imagine the cost to reclaim a cassette is just too expensive. How much can a new one cost to fabricate? A few cents? Is there anything stopping processing centers like yours from giving them to local recycling plants? That seems more practical.
Regarding bulk loading, you're assuming...
I can't imagine why Alaris would want to vote to turn over distribution to Eastman Kodak and 1500 Alaris employees lose their jobs which currently are locked in due to the bankruptcy provision between the two companies. Why would Eastman Kodak want the headache of distribution in any case...
I had done bulk loading for many years and that solution will not work for most people for 35mm and virtually no one for 120 film. Calling for bulk film is basically stating that bulk loading will satisfy very few and benefit almost no one.
Eh I don't really get it. KA isn't doing this for charity, they're making money. If they absorbed part of KA and re-built other systems there is no reason why they too can't make money on it. That's another thing that should change. The dealer network sucks for consumers, sucks for vendors...
The international nature of KodakAlaris is the biggest reason that "it just won't happen". It is expensive to operate that sort of business, and Eastman Kodak is mostly a non-photographic commercial printing support business that has an interesting film manufacturing division. Eastman Kodak...
Are the KodakAlaris employees working on a volunteer basis? They cost in terms of payroll and facilities. I know as well as you know that the situation is not likely to change... but, hypothetically speaking, if the payroll and facilities costs associated with KAlaris didn't exist (were...
Eastman Kodak has about 1,100 employees - almost all in Rochester.
KodakAlaris has about 1,500 distributed all around the world, doing the distribution work they do.
Eastman Kodak would have to double its payroll and add a large amount of location costs to do what KodakAlaris does - there...
Realistically, I'd like this Alaris situation to go end. It seems like they might have some bean-counter reasons why products that are in production currently are simply only available in ways that make the more expensive or difficult to get. I see no reason why color film can't be sold in...
Or some entity related to Sino Promise.
And/or the same entity that was manufacturing for KodakAlaris, but is now manufacturing for Sino Promise.
Sadly, we are in a world where very often the product's name and the product's manufacturer are only related through contract.
Everything Kodak color chemistry I have used for the last 10 years came from a plant originally built by Eastman Kodak Wuxi , sold during the bankruptcy, this plant continued to provide KodakAlaris.
From our date codes it appears to be Sino Promise made color chemistry.
...by a single company is appealing to me for the simple reason that I suspect (though can't guarantee) it might remove a lot of the barriers to growth and innovation. As it is now, it seems there's a lot of inertia in this triune system comprised of Eastman Kodak, KodakAlaris, and Sino Promise.
Important to differentiate between three distinct organizations. Eastman Kodak, KodakAlaris, and Kodak SinoPromise.
I would like to see EK thrive, make money, expand the finishing/conversion department.
I hope that K SinoPromise survives and can regroup. I have used their C41 and RA4...
As KodakAlaris sold the still film photo-chemistry business to Sino-Promise, E6 photo-chemistry is probably a non-starter, unless that segment of photo-chemistry can be bought back from Sino Promise.
I suspect some vary serious discussions occurred when KodakAlaris tried to sell the still films, chemical and paper business.
For KA to retain the film business it had to generate more profit. At the same time Eastman Kodak, wanted freedom to sell to people like Cinestill. AND THEN COVID HIT...
No, they are doing the distribution work, and if the Ilford example is any guide, they are probably doing it cheaper than if Eastman Kodak had to rebuild the worldwide network and do it themselves.
Basically then, Alaris is just taking a percentage off the top due to the bankruptcy. Whatever it is just adds an extra layer of cost to Kodak film prices that other manufacturers don't have.
KodakAlaris doesn't inventory stock - they do the marketing to local distributors. Eastman Kodak essentially produces to order.
KodakAlaris are the international marketing partner for Eastman Kodak. In healthy markets there are multiple distributors buying product from KodakAlaris, and they...
To avoid this, drop shipping (shipping directly from Kodak) is not the only option. Alaris could have just a warehouse somewhere in the US / near/in Rochester to ship to certain markets... So, they would place orders to Kodak and tell them to ship to the warehouse in America, Europe or Asia...
Well I'm curious what those arrangements are even though they're confidential. The problem of course from our standpoint is that it may cause higher prices since they're two levels of mark-up whereas with other manufacturers who handle the distribution as well, is only one. The other question is...
...Both parties are mature business entities with a lot at stake - Eastman Kodak can't afford to do their own distribution, and KodakAlaris needs the manufacturing. And they both have access to really good, really experienced negotiators and lawyers.
How likely do you think it would be that...
I understand those things. But what guarantees to Alaris are there that Kodak can't shut down film manufacturing totally or how much they can charge Alaris for their film if they continue operations?
...them, they sell everything they can convert within hours.
And don't forget that because of historical reasons Kodak film needs to bring enough profit for manufacturer (Eastman Kodak) to stay in production and marketing rights holder (KodakAlaris) to generate enough cash for Kodak Pension Plan.
The contractual agreement between the parties. It actually is a revised version of the previous agreement, but KodakAlaris continues to own many important legal rights which were paid for with, among many other things, the $600,000,000.00 USD paid to the Trustee as part of the settlement...
What legal requirement left over from the bankruptcy settlement is there that forces Kodak in the US to keep producing films for KodakAlaris in Great Britain?
...around the world - not just in the USA. And they are in demand, all around the world.
And the film gets shipped and sold all around the world - not just into the USA. And Eastman Kodak and KodakAlaris need those non-USA markets and customers to remain viable.
The world is a lot more than...
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