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  1. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    First off, the film is made by EK for KA distribution. No necessarily need existing KA distribution. There are others who would be glad to represent and distribute Kodak film. MAybe even EK. What's Kodak's opinion on this? Also, I suspect a Chinese company might buy it out as they bought...
  2. Sirius Glass

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    Fujifilm Announces Temporary Unavailability of Color Neg/Reversal Films in Japan in 135 and 120

    The purpose is to keep old farts like us tied to computers and off the streets! The concept it to make streets and roads all over the world safer.
  3. BradS

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    Thanks for this reminder. One may reasonably infer that the current owners are not particularly interested in or committed to running, growing or perhaps, even sustaining the business long term. Which explains much with regard to product pricing, among other things.
  4. Hassasin

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    It seemed like it stunk this way since the beginning.

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    Any idea where the drylab supplies come from? Ink media etc.
  6. Hassasin

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    That I understand. Which really makes no difference to KA being the name behind still film. And not many would notice a difference if simply checking out Alaris’ website for film information. For general information available at the Alaris takeover Kodak film would have gone dead without it. We...
  7. MattKing

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    ...to things like Kodak branded clothing and coffee cups and the like. The article is chock full of inaccuracies. But it is true that Kodak Alaris' owner - which remains the Pension Fund, which is being operated by the UK Pension authorities - has been seeking to maximize the value they can...
  8. MattKing

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    Well, it is full of references to Kodak Alaris manufacturing product, which they haven't really done since the closed the colour paper factory in Harrow.
  9. Hassasin

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    Reading between the lines it appears to say film pricing is not a solution to some inherent management problems. Whether this will shift control to China for good is yet to be seen. Difficult to imagine Kodak brand disappearing altogether in a short term. I also don’t see how that article...
  10. cmacd123

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    Seem to be in the States and europe. https://kiosklocator.kodakmoments.com/kiosk-locator the "about US" on that page says " Kodak Alaris started with Kodak’s Personalized Imaging and Document Imaging businesses and was created on September 3, 2013. Our plan is to maintain the Kodak brand’s...
  11. cmacd123

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    ...the Kodak Limited pension plan was bailed out, and this appers that the Pension board is wanting to sell the main asset, which is the Kodak ALaris Business. If one were into specualtion, the situation may partly explain teh shortage of Kodak film. BT we don't do speculation here.. :)
  12. Alan Edward Klein

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    Fujifilm Announces Temporary Unavailability of Color Neg/Reversal Films in Japan in 135 and 120

    Someone started a thread about Kodak Alaris film division being sold (potentially). The plot thickens. https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/kodak-alaris-for-sale-again-april-17-2023.198753/

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    Kodak Alaris for sale Again April 17 2023

    https://petapixel.com/2023/04/17/the-main-kodak-film-business-is-up-for-sale-again/
  14. brbo

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    "New" colour film ClickASnap

    They were inspired by a (relatively) low price of motion picture film that they can get from Eastman Kodak without Alaris in the middle.
  15. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    A partnership is successful until it isn't. Just what the terms are to break it up in this case is unknown but seems rather limited.
  16. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Not having access to the agreement or bankruptcy arrangement, we're all just speculating on these details.
  17. koraks

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    So in this relationship, what you brought to the table was an asset (access to a market) that was relatively easy and cheap to imitate or otherwise substitute for the manufacturer. No matter how you negotiated, you held the short straw from the very beginning. This is also why I don't think your...
  18. MattKing

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Alaris' employees have their own separate post-employment arrangements with Kodak Alaris. Any that formerly worked for Kodak Limited ended that employment at the time of the bankruptcy and commenced new employment with Kodak Alaris. The Kodak Limited Pension Plan was capped at the time of the...
  19. MattKing

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    ...(IIRC) lease for the premises. There are many such long term leases and other business arrangements out there. The agreement between Kodak Alaris and Eastman Kodak is just that - an agreement. If it is a well crafted agreement, it reflects the needs of both parties. And, most likely, it...
  20. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    But Alaris has exclusive representation in perpetuity. Eastman can't get rid of them if they aren't doing a good job as a dealer and distributor. Would you want to be stuck with a spouse who's cheating on you? Also, the brand belongs to Eastman not Alaris. It's not a brand licensing...
  21. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    ...gave me a year to move on. I should have negotiated a better deal, maybe three years. The point is Eastman Kodak cannot get rid of Kodak Alaris. They're stuck with them even if they don't like how they handle their distributorship. Eastman can only manufacturer film labelled and packaged...
  22. Don_ih

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Maybe if you think of it another way, it'll seem less unusual. Kodak Alaris seems free to sell any product manufactured by anybody and Eastman Kodak seems free to sell its film to anyone they want (as long as it's not then branded Kodak). If you think of it as a brand-licensing arrangement...

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Do you know if EK do the packaging for the non-Kodak branded film ? The lack of finishing capacity seems to be the issue which is driving the shortage of 35mm colour film and the silly prices that are being charged
  24. MattKing

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    I don't know. The still photographic film manufacturing part of Eastman Kodak is a relatively small part of Eastman Kodak's business, but I expect that there are targets built into the agreement between them - targets for both sides. And of course there is a synergy between the other things...
  25. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Does Eastman Kodak have any requirements to manufacture film for Alaris if they want to stop manufacturing altogether?
  26. MattKing

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    The bankruptcy is long over, and has no relevance. Back at the time of the bankruptcy, Eastman Kodak and Kodak Alaris entered into a contract respecting the distribution and marketing of Kodak branded still film man. That contract has since been revised, due at least in part to the hugely...

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    They do sell photo film to other companies though e.g. (allegedly) Lomography, Fujifilm, Aerocolor to various companies. Is t it likely that the restriction is on selling prepackaged film rather than on master rolls. And then where does the ULF film come in (...
  28. Alan Edward Klein

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    Kodak Price Increase and Hiring Spree 2023: What Do You Want Kodak to Focus on Moving Forward?

    Kodak is limited on photo film because of their bankruptcy requirements to sell to Alaris except for movie film sold directly to movie makers in Hollywood and elsewhere.
  29. MattKing

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    New HC-110 Formula

    That isn't current anymore - it has been superseded since shortly after Sino Promise bought the business from Kodak Alaris - 2 years ago? If someone is selling that, it is quite old stock.
  30. Hassasin

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    Is the film craze dead?

    add bad management, market blindness, business reflux maybe ... Kodak is a sad story these days, so is Fujifilm. One can hope things will change at the two, but at this point looks like something else is controlling these decisions. I don't think we will ever know. The only actual hope is that...
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