Okay well whomever the mfr is. Photosys, whichever. They responded to my query to Freestyle about needing the starter or not and they said no, not if using one shot. Freestyle wasn’t sure and they did it want to lie so they asked the mfr. and that’s what they came back with.
Anyway. Dead horse.
thanks everyone!
By the way I also got a reply from Kodak through Freestyle that you don’t need starter and that you just use the replenisher.
Man, the difference in information is wild.
But regardless, the proper way according to all documentation is to do the replenisher plus starter. So...
Well the whole point of this thread was about Kodaks suggestion to use developer one-shot. If you do as they suggest, I’ll use the developer portion of that kit in two-three weeks. And have a crapton of bleach and fixer left over.
So my whole goal was to determine what developer to buy in bulk...
OR
Maybe it will be worth it if my results with the developer+starter are way better than my results with the kit! Which, frankly, are no better than cinestills $30 kit.
yeah actually if you read the top of the SDS for our kit, they literally call it Developer Replenisher. They’re not giving us starter.
So I believe I just wasted $115 on starter.
Editing: Looks like they did finally post the SDS for our kit and it does show that. That’s good
But all that does is make it match the developer replenisher exactly then.
I.e. there is no trace of actual starter in our kit developer. It’s just replenisher.
Im being redundant in my last two comments, lol
But I’ll say this, the developer in our 5L kit does not have any bromides in it. It would have to say that in the SDS. The SDS for starter lists the specific bromide that’s in it.
Our developer lacks it. My belief is that they’re giving us...
The developer that comes in the 5L kit we’re discussing does NOT have bromide in it.
I disagree with the SDS’s matching not meaning anything. They must list all chemicals in the SDS. And the developer we get with the kit matches the regular developer replenisher. Zero bromide in it whatsoever...
So, looking at the SDS for each product on Cinestill website,
-The Bleach III Replenisher (2x10L) (both Parts A and B) are identical to the Bleach (Parts A and B) in the 5L C41 Kit (no starter in the kit)
-The LU LORR Developer Replenisher (4x10L) (Parts A, B and C) are identical to the...
Thought I’d offer! 6L is a crap ton.
With the original flexicolor, didnt they sell everything in much smaller amounts than the new chems that they sell now?
Hey radialMelt,
So far what I’ve taken away from this whole thread is
1-use the developer one shot (I learned that on my own, see original post) or twice. But not much more.
2-buy the lorr replenisher (comes in 40L) which will last a while
3- you will actually need the starter, even though it...
Well that’s cool! I’d imagine so. I do have a BS in chemistry! But I would have no idea lol. We’ll find out.
Do you know much about the bleach? I hear the same debate about whether you need a starter for bleach or just need the replenisher.
Okay cool. That’s likely the comment I needed.
So it’s 6 full liters of concentrate.
Which would definitely be once in a lifetime at 30mL per Liter use. But, what about expirations? How long do the unopened bottles last? If it’s 1-2 years, I’m totally okay spending 50$ a year on starter. If it...
Is that the new starter that cinestill is selling 6x1L? Is it 6x 1 liter bottles of concentrate? Or are they small bottles that you mix with water to make 1L of starter?
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