I may have split toned up to the mid-tones in selenium, but I don't usually do much toning with lith unless I am trying to control the crazy colors from Fomatone or using gold. This is the second image that I lith printed on MGWT and the shadows are really warm and look a lot like they do after you selenium tone MMGWT conventionally, but quite as much maroon. I'm starting to like to lith a bit more subtle-y and MGWT is pretty subtle