hey thanks Thomas,Thomas and Kal ! Andrew I find the Holga a great teaching aid ... without metering and meaningful aperture control and "iffy" focus one is left with just plain seeing and appreciating light/subject for what it is for the moment. The cheap plastic toy seems to become a minimal part of the photographic experience. I'm hoping this happens with my field and medium format (non-toy)cameras. I'll be better for it .... Gene, this is an amazing little guy with a WOW amount of personality ....