Remember how JPG started? I mean the very lowly beginning before they got a real publishing deal. It started at Lulu. I'm not saying that this would be the way it has to be. I'm just saying that it's a possibility that it seems we haven't really covered at any length. What I propose is that we do a magazine. An APUG quarterly or some such. We publish it through Lulu as a B&W magazine 3/4 of the year, and the last magazine for the year will be a double issue, with both B&W and color. The magazine is done as a labor of love on a volunteer basis. What this would end up being, really, is a collection of photo essays, portfolios, and articles related to film photography and alternative processes published almost like a book 4 times a year. The audience wouldn't be as wide as it would be if the magazine was printed by a big publisher and out on news stands, but it's better than nothing. There would be no cost of having to get a large run of, say, 10,000 magazines paid for by subscriptions. I can't say that I could run something like this, because of having a young child. It's hard for me to even go out and take photographs. I'm sure that Adam would support such a venture, but the time I would spend on it would be a lot of late nights and early mornings. If someone else wants to be the real go-to person, I'll help where I can. If no one else could do it, I'll make the time it needs. I've had a lot of failed projects over the years due to underestimating the time and effort I needed to put in, but this time I know what I'm in for. I'd need help, obviously, but first we have to see if there is even any interest. Just something to ponder. Film photography is important to me and I think that we need somewhere to show off as well.