We want Any cheap color films not Kodak - Fuji

mohmad khatab · Mar 22, 2020

Ten301 said:
All the films in your photos, although Astrum repackaged them, are actually manufactured/coated by Tasma in Russia.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Свема
h http://tasma.ru/
OK
I will consider your words 100% correct.
This will not change anything
I will endeavor to communicate with the Tasma plant in Tatarstan - perhaps I will have an answer.
The Tatar people love and respect the Egyptians a lot. Many Muslim students study at Al-Azhar Islamic University in Egypt as a grant from the Egyptian government. (This is not our main topic)
I will endeavor to contact them to inquire about the true story.

Henning Serger · Mar 23, 2020

twelvetone12 said:
(sorry derailing the thread out of curiosity) Are Inovisproject and Inoviscoat related? I thought the negative film for impossible/polaroid was made by them!

Yes, they are related, in the following way:
- both companies are "under the same roof", in the same building
- both companies are using the same factory and the same machines. There are detailed contracts which regulate all the different operations
- but both companies are legally separate and independent companies
- Inovisproject is a daughter company of Polaroid Originals, and they produce the colour negative film base for the Polaroid films (I also visited the Polariod factory in Enschede some time before and published a report about it on the German film photography magazine PhotoKlassik).
I visited the Inovisproject / InovisCoat factory in Monheim, Germany, last year. It's a bit funny, because some of the employees have 'Inovisproject' on their working clothes, and others have 'InovisCoat' on their clothes.

Best regards,
Henning

miha · Mar 23, 2020

Henning Serger said:
...
- Inovisproject is a daughter company of Polaroid Originals, and they produce the colour negative film base for the Polaroid films
...

Only for them or they also produce for other customers, or is this left to InovisCoat alone?

Henning Serger · Mar 23, 2020

miha said:
Only for them or they also produce for other customers, or is this left to InovisCoat alone?

Inovisproject is producing the negative film base for their mother company Polaroid Originals. Polaroid has increasing demand for years, and Inovisproject has enough to do with this production for their mother company. That is their full focus. No further products.

Best regards,
Henning

miha · Mar 23, 2020

Henning Serger said:
Inovisproject is producing the negative film base for their mother company Polaroid Originals. Polaroid has increasing demand for years, and Inovisproject has enough to do with this production for their mother company. That is their full focus. No further products.

Best regards,
Henning

Thanks. So Adox, Bergger, Lomo, Fimotec, etc. do business with InovisCoat?

twelvetone12 · Mar 23, 2020

Henning Serger said:
- both companies are "under the same roof", in the same building

Thanks Henning! The film manufacturing world sure is an interesting one!

Huss · Mar 23, 2020

Henning Serger said:
For the last years there have been the following film manufacturers being active in colour film emulsion production and colour film coating:
- Eastman Kodak
- Fujifilm
- Polaroid Originals (including their daugther company Inovisproject which is producing the colour negative film base for the Polaroid films)
- InovisCoat.

Period. That's it. All other offers from different suppliers are either re-labelled films from the manufacturers above, or old expired, discontinued former films.

Best regards,
Henning

Who makes the new Lomo Metropolis film?

Henning Serger · Mar 24, 2020

Huss said:
Who makes the new Lomo Metropolis film?

Neither Kodak, nor Fujifilm, nor Polaroid Originals..........

Best regards,
Henning

Lachlan Young · Mar 24, 2020

Henning Serger said:
Neither Kodak, nor Fujifilm, nor Polaroid Originals..........

Best regards,
Henning

So, most likely produced in a coating plant in Monheim... What's the maximum width of substrate that the machine at Inoviscoat can handle? I take it that it's a single coating head & that anything over 9 layers would have to go through twice - as opposed to Kodak B-38 with its two multilayer hoppers?

Henning Serger · Mar 25, 2020

Lachlan Young said:
What's the maximum width of substrate that the machine at Inoviscoat can handle?

Lachlan, it is 1.08 meters.

Lachlan Young said:
I take it that it's a single coating head & that anything over 9 layers would have to go through twice - as opposed to Kodak B-38 with its two multilayer hoppers?

Correct.

Best regards,
Henning

mohmad khatab · Mar 25, 2020

Anyone in my place will do like me.
The analog amateur community is growing daily.
- I began to suspect that it is just a new fashion or trend and will disappear with the passage of time.
- With this continuous increase in the number of amateurs, the prices of analog cameras began to rise. Despite this, amateurs are willing to buy, and in the end they are shocked when they cannot get a negative color film at an (acceptable) price.
- The very high prices have caused some new hobbyists to stop hobby and sell their camera (due to the high price of Films), the economic level is really weak in Egypt.
- I've only found 3 people buying a portra movie in a country with a population of 100 million, and with at least 5,000 photography enthusiasts.
I, along with me and 4 colleagues, the founders of the new analog photography community, have found ourselves indebted to a literary commitment to these new amateurs, this commitment boils down to trying to find a cheap product that works well and produces a negative color roll.
Whatever its brand, even if it was produced by “the accursed Satan Factory” for photography, this does not matter.

YellowPangolin · Mar 29, 2020

Here in America Fuji is the best and the cheapest film you can get. In the local American big box store, film can be bought $17 for three rolls of 36 color. I do not trust the quality of Kodak.

However that doesn't mean I dont want other cheap films. There just don't seem to be any in existence as the manufacture of film is very difficult and complex.

Kodachromeguy · Mar 29, 2020

Mohmad, do you have in Egypt any large chain stores, similar to our Walmart, or Aldi, or supermarket chains? Do they sell film? Those chains have the advantage of bulk purchasing power.

Ernst-Jan · Mar 30, 2020

YellowPangolin said:
film can be bought $17 for three rolls of 36 color.

Although I prefer Fuji, the cheapest I can get for 35mm is 3x36 Kodak Gold for €8, at German drug store DM.

Really good value for money. Medium format I prefer to shoot Fuji.

YellowPangolin · Mar 30, 2020

Ernst-Jan said:
Although I prefer Fuji, the cheapest I can get for 35mm is 3x36 Kodak Gold for €8, at German drug store DM.

Really good value for money. Medium format I prefer to shoot Fuji.

Really strange how Kodak is your cheaper film, but here in America where presumably Kodak is made, its the more expensive of the two. I guess they must've outsourced that factory.

I havent seen any Kodak in a Walmart. Only Fuji.

MattKing · Mar 30, 2020

YellowPangolin said:
I guess they must've outsourced that factory.

No - they have outsourced distribution.
The vagaries of the distribution systems are the largest component by far influencing the availability and price of film.

pentaxuser · Mar 30, 2020

Mohmad, from the prices being quoted it still looks as if Kodak from Morco might be the cheapest. Can I ask: Is your real objective to secure colour C41 film as cheaply as possible and that if Kodak is the cheapest then you will buy Kodak?

Have you worked out the price including import taxes, if there are any in Egypt, that is the maximum you and your group can afford to pay? Then it is simply a question of each of us finding a stockist of C41 colour film, telling you of its price and leaving you to contact the stockist, find out if they will deliver it to Egypt and work out how much it will cost you to have it delivered to Egypt

pentaxuser

mohmad khatab · Mar 30, 2020

YellowPangolin said:
Here in America Fuji is the best and the cheapest film you can get. In the local American big box store, film can be bought $17 for three rolls of 36 color. I do not trust the quality of Kodak.

However that doesn't mean I dont want other cheap films. There just don't seem to be any in existence as the manufacture of film is very difficult and complex.

Hi brother ,,,
I am talking about Egypt ,,
The matter here is completely different,

mohmad khatab · Mar 30, 2020

Kodachromeguy said:
Mohmad, do you have in Egypt any large chain stores, similar to our Walmart, or Aldi, or supermarket chains? Do they sell film? Those chains have the advantage of bulk purchasing power.

Hi brother ,,,
What you were really talking about was available in the past, was any booth selling photographic films.
Now, getting drugs is easier than getting a 35 mm film
What are you talking about, man.
Why am I shouting then?

mohmad khatab · Mar 30, 2020

MattKing said:
No - they have outsourced distribution.
The vagaries of the distribution systems are the largest component by far influencing the availability and price of film.

Hi brother ,,,
Yesterday I received a message from that mysterious man, and I replied, "I don't know what he will do."
I will inform you of any new steps.

mohmad khatab · Mar 30, 2020

pentaxuser said:
Mohmad, from the prices being quoted it still looks as if Kodak from Morco might be the cheapest. Can I ask: Is your real objective to secure colour C41 film as cheaply as possible and that if Kodak is the cheapest then you will buy Kodak?

Have you worked out the price including import taxes, if there are any in Egypt, that is the maximum you and your group can afford to pay? Then it is simply a question of each of us finding a stockist of C41 colour film, telling you of its price and leaving you to contact the stockist, find out if they will deliver it to Egypt and work out how much it will cost you to have it delivered to Egypt

pentaxuser

Hi brother ,,,
Mr. (Morco) is unfortunately a very difficult and stingy man who has absolutely no human feelings.
- I assigned one of my colleagues to the community to engage with him in order to persuade him to give us a reasonable discount rate, but he refused (almost).
What do we do next.
We told him that we wanted a minimum of 500 rolls. But he eludes.
We are weary and tired.
- But we have never and never will surrender.
We will try and strive in all ways and all means.
I do not know what to say .
I almost missed filming the passive color film. Due to a severe shortage in the supply of it.
- There is even an evil old man, who had a stocked stock expired 30 years ago from Kodakalor, Kodakrome, (ORWO) rolls, Forte and many brands that died since the Stone Age, now that old man sells this stock at crazy prices. Although the success rate of filming on it is approximately 5%,
This is the case of sewage in an era that has been without rain

YellowPangolin · Mar 30, 2020

mohmad khatab said:
Hi brother ,,,
I am talking about Egypt ,,
The matter here is completely different,

How much is shipping to egypt? I have plenty of rolls at great prices strait from america.

Ernst-Jan · Mar 31, 2020

Fotoimpex (fotoimpex.de) ships for €35 world wide. At the moment Fujicolor C200 is not in stock unfortunatelly. But if you buy lets say 20 rolls this would cost you €85 including shipping.
This is €4,25 for a 36 roll. That is cheaper than the price listed bij Astrum.

pentaxuser · Mar 31, 2020

Mohmad, thank you for your reply. I am sorry you had problems with Mr Morco. This is a pity as you are offering to buy a minimum of 500 rolls which is quite a large offer and gives Morco a lot of money

I hope you have success elsewhere

pentaxuser

mohmad khatab · Mar 31, 2020

YellowPangolin said:
How much is shipping to egypt? I have plenty of rolls at great prices strait from america.

Hi brother.
We were planning to use the traditional cheap sea freight in order to reduce expenses, and we have one of the Egyptian photographic companies that are legally entitled to import photographic films (titanal agents in Egypt),
I don’t know if your quantity can be shipped by sea or not?
Please tell me your quantities and qualities so that we can think together about the most appropriate way to ship to Egypt.
Also, let's talk about pricing with private messages.
God bless you, my dear brother.
Thank you for your sympathy for us.
Greetings

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