I mostly shoot 35mm, with older cameras. I have a Pentax ME, ME Super, Program Plus, and a Nikon F8001 w/SB-28 I hate my results shooting with flash. The photos look ugly and washed out. Using non-TTL auto mode with my Pentaxen and TTL auto with my Nikon, my exposures are fine, I just don't like the look. Plus, my only flash is big and heavy. So I never use flash, because I hate it. But after reading some stuff on kenrockwell.com about bounce flash, I realized what I had been missing. It's not that flash is bad, I just don't use it well. Now I realize that bouncing flash can be very useful. However, do you have to have TTL flash capabilities in order to do bouncing? I know my Nikon has TTL flash capabilities, but it's my least-used camera. I don't think my Pentax cameras can do TTL, and if they did, it would probably have to be with a Pentax flash. Would a better manual Pentax like the LX work with TTL flash? The other issue is the size and weight. My SB-28, I'm pretty sure, weighs more than my ME super with lens, and it's horribly top heavy. I would like a very small flash, no matter how slow or weak, but now I realize that bouncing is good. So basically I'm jealous of the Nikon SB400 flash as presented in this kenrockwell article http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/sb400.htm What I want is a very small, bounceable flash like this that works with my cameras. But since the SB400 doesn't even work with my Nikon, I'm not sure if it's even possible. Even assuming I could find a small bounceable flash, I don't think I could use it effectively with my Pentaces because they don't do TTL mode.