I never would have given Rodinal a second thought except for the good press it gets on this site. So I found myself in Freestyle the other day and bought a bottle to give it a try. Since I shoot a fair amount of Panatomic X which can be hard to tame, the idea of one shot highly diluted Rodinal sounded plausible. The Pan X is Aerial film and I cut 5" rolls for the 5X7 and occasionally the 4X5. I began at 1:100 / 9 minutes @ 75 degrees and the first neg up in the tray was lovely. I tried some other dilutions and less time but the first guess is the winner. Gorgeous neg that prints perfectly on J&C Museum weight Normal which requires a good long negative. I'll post a scan of the print in a while when it's dry. But things went downhill when I rolled some FP4+ in a Jobo tank. I used 1 + 25 dilution for the FP4, and gave it 9 minutes also. Same temp. Density and curve seem quite acceptable but yipes!! Do you guys who like this stuff really tolerate that kind of grain?? And that's with a medium speed film. I can't imagine this stuff with Tmax 400. Unless I wanted the rock star with grain on purpose look. In any case, I'm pleased that I found a specialty niche developer for my Pan X and you can feel free to flame me for the other opines. Pcat HD is far FAR superior in my ever so humble opinion. Oh, I'll give it a go on APHS also. Usually anything that will work well on the Pan X can be cut in half and work OK for continuous tones with the Lith film.