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I read that Oil of Olay Facial Cleansing Lotion is 99 % Triethanolamine. Is that the same stuff Patrick Gainer uses for developers?

And anitfreeze exist in two color variations. Is there a chemical difference significant for developers?

Where do you buy propylene glycol? I heard it was used as a cow medication?

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argentic said:
I read that Oil of Olay Facial Cleansing Lotion is 99 % Triethanolamine. Is that the same stuff Patrick Gainer uses for developers?

And anitfreeze exist in two color variations. Is there a chemical difference significant for developers?

Where do you buy propylene glycol? I heard it was used as a cow medication?

Gilbert
Depends on if your area allows anitfreeze (propylene glycol) as the preservative in Dr. Pepper. Bet most of you haven't read the lable on those cans. It wasn't until about 5 years ago that some of the States here decided to ban its use in soda pop.
 

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If I remember correctly, propylene glycol is used to treat ketosis in cows.
 

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Propylene Glycol (PG). This very versatile propylene oxide derivative is an ingredient in many consumer products and industrial applications including polyester and alkyd resins, paints and coatings, photographic chemistry, antifreeze coolants and heat transfer fluids, plasticizers, functional fluids, household detergents, industrial solvents, and aircraft deicing fluids. Additionally, USP grade propylene glycol has many uses in foods, pharmaceutical, and personal care products.

I buy my Propylene Glycol from: http://www.chemistrystore.com/propylene_glycol.htm
 

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You can get triethanolamine from www.chemistrystore as well as propylene glycol and some other chemicals you can use in the darkroom.
 

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gainer said:
You can get triethanolamine from www.chemistrystore as well as propylene glycol and some other chemicals you can use in the darkroom.
You forgot to add the .com
 

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'I read that Oil of Olay Facial Cleansing Lotion is 99 % Triethanolamine. Is that the same stuff Patrick Gainer uses for developers?'

Why assume that anything you read is true? Yes, there is some idiotic site on the web that says this product contains 99% TEA. As a matter of fact it does. TEA at 99% purity. But the amount in the product is probably a max of 5% or so.

Relative purity/impurity levels of TEA can have important effects on development. It is important to do your work with TEA of a known quality and stick to it.

You can't use face cleansing lotion as an ingredient in a film developer.
 

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Phooy, and here I was eyeballing some of the War Departments, War Paint. :tongue: . Dave

billtroop said:
'I read that Oil of Olay Facial Cleansing Lotion is 99 % Triethanolamine. Is that the same stuff Patrick Gainer uses for developers?'

Why assume that anything you read is true? Yes, there is some idiotic site on the web that says this product contains 99% TEA. As a matter of fact it does. TEA at 99% purity. But the amount in the product is probably a max of 5% or so.

Relative purity/impurity levels of TEA can have important effects on development. It is important to do your work with TEA of a known quality and stick to it.

You can't use face cleansing lotion as an ingredient in a film developer.
 

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billtroop said:
'I read that Oil of Olay Facial Cleansing Lotion is 99 % Triethanolamine. Is that the same stuff Patrick Gainer uses for developers?'

Why assume that anything you read is true? Yes, there is some idiotic site on the web that says this product contains 99% TEA. As a matter of fact it does. TEA at 99% purity. But the amount in the product is probably a max of 5% or so.

Relative purity/impurity levels of TEA can have important effects on development. It is important to do your work with TEA of a known quality and stick to it.

You can't use face cleansing lotion as an ingredient in a film developer.
What I get from The Chemistry Store is the 99% at about $16 per gallon + shipping. Propylene glycol is the same price. These are grades suitable for use in cosmetics.
 

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Tom Hoskinson said:
Propylene Glycol (PG). This very versatile propylene oxide derivative is an ingredient in many consumer products and industrial applications including polyester and alkyd resins, paints and coatings, photographic chemistry, antifreeze coolants and heat transfer fluids, plasticizers, functional fluids, household detergents, industrial solvents, and aircraft deicing fluids. Additionally, USP grade propylene glycol has many uses in foods, pharmaceutical, and personal care products.

Don't forget freeze conditioning in coal mine production systems and coal-fired power plants. I sell it by the rail-tanker full. How many do you want? :wink:

Bruce
 

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gainer said:
What I get from The Chemistry Store is the 99% at about $16 per gallon + shipping. Propylene glycol is the same price. These are grades suitable for use in cosmetics.

So-called "green" antifreeze is propylene glycol and is available at some auto stores. I bought a gallon locally for $3. Works fine. It's harder to find in auto stores however because either 1)the ethylene glycol big boys like Prestone, etc. have poisoned the market against the PG types, OR 2)some mechanics say that the PG stuff actually makes the radiator rust out sooner than the EG type. Take your pick.

Larry
 

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Maine-iac said:
So-called "green" antifreeze is propylene glycol and is available at some auto stores. I bought a gallon locally for $3. Works fine. It's harder to find in auto stores however because either 1)the ethylene glycol big boys like Prestone, etc. have poisoned the market against the PG types, OR 2)some mechanics say that the PG stuff actually makes the radiator rust out sooner than the EG type. Take your pick.

Larry
It's been a long time since I have seen a radiator that could rust. It's hard to see how either glycol could cause "rusting" and they both have corrosion inhibitors anyway. Ethylene glycol is bad for children and dogs because it is sweet, poisonous, and children and dogs love sweets and cannot read labels. I think it's propaganda by the manufacturers of ethylene glycol antifreeze.
 

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All of this discussion got me to thinking about the lyrics for O. of O.'s old theme song: "Keep them guessing, with Oil of Olay" . Is it only me, or is there a deeper meaning to those words. Could this be the much discussed, highly sought after photo/artist's/ elixir, guaranteed to instantly inject an image with subtle level of depth & mystique, or at least seem to???

And think of how youthfull your hands will look after using it for a few weeks!
 
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