Super-Angulon's 8/75 and 8/90 without center filters on 9*12 cm

[-=mozg=-]

Hello all,
I make first steps in large format, and I want a wide-angle lens.
70-90 mm (like 24-28 mm on 35mm film, right?)

I found on ebay Super-Angulon 8/75mm and Super-Angulon 8/90mm, not expensive and not very old. But, most of these lenses come without center filter.
How strong is edge fading on 75 mm without filter, maybe shooting on color slide is difficult?

And I found only a few reviews or samples of Super-Angulon 8/75mm, does anybody use this lens?

Currently i shot on Toyo 45CX (yeah, heavy and uncomfortable) with Nikkor-W 150/5.6.

Sorry for my bad English

Ilya.

 

[Frank_Ulrich]

Dear Ilya,
I have both and like them a lot. The falloff of light is visible but not a problem for me (and my taste). The 8/75 is ideal used with my ShenHao 45 since the rear standard can be moved forward - I prefer the 8/90 with my Super Technika V since the bottom of the camera has to be dropped down to clear the field of view with the 8/75, at least in portrait orientation. It may be difficult to focus with the 8/75 - due to the small aperture and the dimmed picture on the groundglass. The results are perfect for my purposes.
Best, Frank

 

[Adrian Twiss]

I have a Super Angulon 90mm F8 and have noticed no discernible fall off. My Fujinon 75mm is perfectly ok without a centre filter as well.

 

[Ian Grant]

Like the others I have both and there's no need for a centre filter with the 90mm although one might help particularly with E6 shots with a 75mm.

I use my 75mm f8 SA on a 617 camera and there is noticeable fall off towards the edges but as I only shoot B&W film I can correct this at the printing stage, a centre filter would be useful but as I often use the camera hand held I can't afford the increased exposure factor.

For colour work you'd really be better off using a centre filter with the 75mm SA but for B&W try it first see how you get on, I also use a 65mm f8 SA 5x4 work and again for B&W as long as I don't err towards under exposure I'm happy using it without a centre filter.

The 75mm f8 SA was not as common as the 90mm's or the 65mm f8 S which was sold as the main WA for the small Linhofs etc which is why they are quite a lot around. Comparing the 75mm to the 65mm I think it's actually a more practical lens as it allows a little more movements, they are excellent lenses, very sharp and even the coated (non MC) versions are remarkably flare free with good contrast.

You've got two good lenses there so now for some images

Ian

 

[Laurent]

I had both, and finally sold the 90 because it was too close from the 75 for my taste. I was not bothered by any fall-off on this 90.

I sold the 75 because the f/8 aperture was not enough for me, and the coverage was too limited for my taste. I replaced it by a 75/5.6 Fujinon, which is perfectly fine for me, without center filter.

 

[-=mozg=-]

Thanks all for answers!

So, I probably will try 8/75 - most of my photos will be black and white (because unopened 100-sheet pack of b&w ISO 65).

About dark image on ground glass: is it possible to focus on infinity using labels on rail and standarts? I mean, precisely focus on infinity at a sunny day, mark standarts positions on a rail and focus sliders - and then just use these marks in dark light conditions for focus (with lens, stopped down for wider DOF)? Or it is a bad and unrealizable idea?

 

[Ian Grant]

If you have a screen & fresnel or an all in one super screen it's not to hard to focus, but it's a bit dim on a plain glass screen. I have used mine on a Crown Graphic with a focus hood and it was OK.

On my 617 I use the 75mm with scale focussing on a lens helical but I usually shoot at f16/f22 and I guess if I made a scale it would be easy with the Crown or Super Graphic s I use, but it'd be much harder with a mopnorail.

Your English isn't bad at all BTW, I've taught British college students whose English is appalling Welcome to APUG.

Ian

 

[Nokton48]

I have the chrome Schneider 65mm, 75mm, and 90mm Super Angulons, and the Schneider Center Filters. I bought the center filters because I was shooting alot of Architectural chromes 4x5 at the time. The 65mm F8 does benefit from the Schneider Center Filter. The 75mm F8 is hard to fnd, mine is in barrel mount, on a Sinar Norma lensboard, and is new to me. Exactly what I have been looking for, for the last twenty years These are GREAT lenses.

 

[-=mozg=-]

So, Schneider-Kreuznach Super-Angulon 1:8/75 arrived, test pictures pending
Once again, thanks to all for your answers!