I've had a few sessions with Emaks K888, using the grade 4 to help me print some flat med-format negatives. I'm using LPD developer at 1:2 for approx 2 1/2 minutes. Overall thoughts: The paper's finish is beautiful, a very natural air-dried glossy finish with a nice weight to it. The gloss is slightly more glossy than Ilford FB, and has slightly less weight to it than the Ilford. It feels like a quality paper in the hand. It has a white base that registers as white to the eye, but it is not as white as Ilford FB, a small difference not noticed unless the two are viewed side by side. The paper is very economical with a 25 sheet pack going for $14.99 at Freestyle. I found Emaks to be almost one stop slower than Ilford. I didn't find the grade 4 that contrasty, but then again, I was printing flat negatives, trying to eke some decent contrast and light separation from them. Drydown seemed considerable, at least 12-15% it seemed to me. I didn't measure this, it's just an off-the-cuff judgement. Have others noticed this as well? I bought a red safelight filter to use with this paper, but didn't use it, instead using my usual OC filter at first to see what would happen. The paper was fine, with no discernible fogging or discoloration at all. I work quickly with my paper, and as soon as the image starts coming up in the developer I always turn it upside down in the tray to completion. I have not toned any of the prints made with this paper yet, but I did some local bleaching as well as some tray bleaching of the entire print. It seemed to take bleach well. I know there's a very good recent thread re this paper already on APUG, but wanted to add another first-hand experience for those thinking about trying this paper.