Scneider 180 Conv. Symmar and color?

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Has anyone used this lens for color? It never crossed my mind to test it. Now that I am going somewhere with the express purpose of shooting color I don't have time to test it. There is no way I could get the film sent, processed, and shipped back by the time I have to leave. This is an older model that, I believe is single coated.
 

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IMHO it is acceptable all put together but suffers from flare when used in its converted configuration. This is true with black and white and color.

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Thanks steve. DO you think it would still flare if I had something to shade it with? I was looking forward to using it converted for a slightly soft look.
 

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I have used a 150 convertible on 4x5", and a 240 convertible on 5x7". Both with colour as well as B&W.

There will be no problem with an 180 on 4x5", but a possibility of "fringing" in the corners on 5x7".
 

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hi mark

i have a 210/370 that i have used to shoot color ( 4x5 ). even with the single element configuration and a little soft, the chromes looked nice.
i don't have a shade, but use my darkslide to shield the lens from the sun ..
 
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Ole,
The 180 covers 5x7 perfectly well with movement. It has become my standard lens
 

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Mark, I've never tried a 180, but I know that it should cover well. The 150 is marginal on 5x7" - OK for B&W if you don't mind soft corners. An 180 on 5x7" would be about the same as a 240 on 18x24cm, which is mystandard :wink:
 

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I use 150, 210 and 360 convertible Symmars on 4x5 for colour negatives with good results. I have played with a borrowed 180 on my 5x7 conversion, but only looked at the ground glass - no pictures. The 180 has plenty of coverage for normal use on 5x7, but if you're fond of huge movements you might run out of image circle.

I can't say I've noticed more flare in the converted state, but I do use a compendium shade, and I have enough bellows to use the rear element on its own so the aperture blades help to screen the glass too.

In the converted state there's a fair bit of colour fringing near the edges of the image circle, and it doesn't go away with stopping down. How bad this looks will depend on the colour and contrast of what you are photographing, but it's more intrusive than a straightforward soft look. The single cells are pretty-well corrected for coma and astigmatism, so you won't get that sick-making swirly feeling to the out of focus parts of the image.
 

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The clarity in the high values suffer when the lens is used in its converted configuration. Even with a shade. I had one of these 20 years ago and quit using it converted because I did not like the results.To some extent this is a personal decision that can be argued about endlessly.

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