Andrew O'Neill
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I've been using this developer for about 20 years, sometimes using it dilute for edge effects. I decided to take a deeper look...
This is fantastic work! I will add that I did once have these blacks dots, but thought the emulsion was faulty, as it was a many years expired film (Neopan 400). Thank you for this detailed test.I've been using this developer for about 20 years, sometimes using it dilute for edge effects. I decided to take a deeper look...
Andy,
Thanks for taking the time to do this test. I can see from your results that for me, shooting medium format, stand or semi-stand is not for me. Why? Cuz, I really like the results I get using Pyrocat-HDC with normal agitation. If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
Yes, I just mixed up another batch of Xtol-R (actually Adox xt-3). My other batch of Xtol-R was still working, but after 6+ years it was time for a new batch. Xtol-R and Pyrocat-HDC are my two main developers and I find I can't fault either one.Ditto for replenished XTOL.
Andy,The takeaway for me after doing this, the 3 min rest negative is pretty much identical (tonally) to the continuous agitation negative, with added sharpness. Longer rest periods (stand) only served to distort tonalities, especially mid tones (which might be okay under certain circumstances/appropriate subject matter, lighting, etc). Stand is not for me. However, I would like to see how other films react to semi-stand, such as Adox CMS 20, TMY-2, Acros. My test has only been with HP5. Finally, I will be exploring dilute Pyrocat-HD and continuous agitation. I've been nursing covid since the 11th, so I haven't really felt like doing much. Even editing is a pain! Even typing this is tiresome!
@Sirius Glass I don't have any friends LOL! Xtol-R is my other main developer. Does that make us friends now?
@Alan Johnson thank you for the link!
@aparat not problem! I appreciate your input!
@pentaxuser I think in the right hands, in the right situation/subject matter, etc. stand works... I won't be using stand, though, as I find it just too harsh (with HP5 anyway). HP5 acting like Tri-X was only a personal opinion (although the curves agree with me)... I can still get somewhat of a Tri-X look even if I just push process HP5, say at 1600 (with better grain).
I'm hungry. I want to eat a doughnut!
The takeaway for me after doing this, the 3 min rest negative is pretty much identical (tonally) to the continuous agitation negative, with added sharpness. Longer rest periods (stand) only served to distort tonalities, especially mid tones (which might be okay under certain circumstances/appropriate subject matter, lighting, etc). Stand is not for me. However, I would like to see how other films react to semi-stand, such as Adox CMS 20, TMY-2, Acros. My test has only been with HP5. Finally, I will be exploring dilute Pyrocat-HD and continuous agitation. I've been nursing covid since the 11th, so I haven't really felt like doing much. Even editing is a pain! Even typing this is tiresome!
@Sirius Glass I don't have any friends LOL! Xtol-R is my other main developer. Does that make us friends now?
@Alan Johnson thank you for the link!
@aparat not problem! I appreciate your input!
@pentaxuser I think in the right hands, in the right situation/subject matter, etc. stand works... I won't be using stand, though, as I find it just too harsh (with HP5 anyway). HP5 acting like Tri-X was only a personal opinion (although the curves agree with me)... I can still get somewhat of a Tri-X look even if I just push process HP5, say at 1600 (with better grain).
I'm hungry. I want to eat a doughnut!
The skin looks terrible, but I was going for that look at the time.
Yes
But donuts drive up the glucose so be careful eating them.
Thank you for your concern! I had only been consuming one per week... although I have to admit... to commemorate the start of Spring Break, I ate three on the 11th. I am now paying for my grievous sin.
Feeling much better today, though. Just received an email from Keith at Custom Bellows. He's finished constructing the bellows for my 14x17! No more sticking my arm up to my elbow in through the front standard to pull out kinks and bumps... (like a vet tending to a farmer's constipated cow through the back standardon All Creatures Great and Small!) I can't wait to get back out there with that beast (the camera, not the cow!) Cheers everyone!
One should wear long plastic gloves when performing such procedures, the cows like it better too. No bull.
So the rubber dish gloves I have by the sink won't do, eh?
I've been using this developer for about 20 years, sometimes using it dilute for edge effects. I decided to take a deeper look...
The wonky curves for extreme minimal agitation are weird. I could understand a curve going in a way that you didn't want, but why the up and down undulations?
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