Project: collecting Ica serial numbers for better data (Pre-Zeiss-Ikon)

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    Hello,

    if found no valid Information about Ica Serial numbers. It only said that with the Ica Merger 1909 they started the numbering System which was later used after the 1926 Merger by Zeiss Ikon.

    I have a Ica camera with original lens, which can be dated by the lens to 1913/14 and Serial No. Cxxxxx

    As most Ica Cameras were sold with (often Zeiss) lens and (often compur) shutter, the camera, if original, can be dated by the existing lists of Compur Numbers and Zeiss Jena lens numbers...

    So if you own a Ica, reagardles what model, I want to invite you to post here:
    -type, if known, Serial Number of the Body (usually where the plate back is mounted), Type and Serial No of the lens, Serial number of the shutter (the compur Serial No is not in the front, the patent number, but the small number on the left side!)

    I would be very happy to get some dated Serial numbers collected here...

    Or if someone has more valid info of the Ica numbering System...
     
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    Ica Ideal 6x9, Serial "H24xxx", Tessar and Compur Serial No both are 1918

    The first Contax in Spring 1932 started with No U 20xxx btw.
     
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    very valuable would be cameras that have both signs of ICA and Zeiss Ikon, from the merger year 1926.

    I have such a Ernemann Heag, with ZI Label, but still a ernemann number... So this camera does not help here...
     
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    thanks... Hope the link ist still existing. It s only acessible with yahoo account...
     
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    1. Icar 180: body D96.., lens Zeiss Icar 209585 (~1913)
    2. Bebe: body E28.., lens Zeiss Tessar 216088 (~1913)
     
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    one finding (data on ebay sale)

    k41828 ica juwel 9x12 tessar 165 No 281432 lens 1914/15 (list says 282xxx is 1915)
     
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    Hello,

    Here are some ICA numbers, from earlier to later cameras :

    _ Cupido (without number of type, but it's a 6x9 format) s/n 87xxx (no letter, maybe a renamed Huttig, body is named ICA) ; lens Tessar Carl Zeiss Jena 112 mm f6,3 s/n 96xxx (~1905-1908) ; shutter Compound s/n 96xxx
    _ Reicka (folding 10x15, no number of type) s/n 81xxxA (~1909) and, smaller, E2 (maybe a factory modification) Tessar CZJ 16,5cm f6,3 s/n 385xxx (~1920 I think it was changed) Compound without s/n ; it strongly looks like Wuensche foldings, but has ICA named body.
    _ Favorit (square folding 10x15, no number of type) s/n A50xxx (1911, patent date inside body), Tessar CZJ 16,5cm f6,3 s/n 140xxx (~1909), Compound s/n 90xxx.
    _ Reicka (folding 10x15 different from the above, no number of type) s/n A54xxx (~1911), lens ICA Doppel-Anastigmat Lloyd 165mm f6,8 s/n 143xxx, Huttig Compound without s/n.
    _ Ideal 385 (folding 13x18) s/n A98xxx (1911, patent date inside body), Tessar CZJ 21cm f6,3 s/n 142xxx (~1909), Compound s/n 203xxx.
    _ TriX 311 (folding 10x15) s/n B89xxx (~1912), ICA Novar Anastigmat 16,5cm f6,8 s/n187xxx, Compound without s/n.
    _ TriX 185 (folding 9x12) s/n C14xxx (~1913), ICA Novar Anastigmat 13,5cm f6,8 s/n 245xxx, simple shutter without s/n.
    _ Triplex 410 (folding 13x18) s/n D87xxx (~1914), Tessar CZJ 18cm f6,8 s/n 187xxx (~1912), Compound 221xxx.
    _ Ideal 205 (folding 9x12) s/n F62xxx (~1919), Tessar CZJ 13,5cm f6,3 s/n 313xxx (~1918), Compur 268xxx.
    _ Ideal 111 (folding 6x9) s/n F77xxx (~1919), Doppel-Anastigmat Hekla 12cm f6,8 s/n 473xxx, Compur 267xxx.
    _ Ideal 325 (folding 10x15) s/n G31xxxK (~1921, modify/repair ~1925), Tessar CZJ 16,5cm f4,5 s/n 623xxx (~1923)Compur 323xxx.
    _ Ideal 385 (folding 13x18) s/n G86xxx (~1922), Tessar CZJ 18cm f4,5 s/n 418xxx (~1920), Compur 316xxx.
    _ Ideal 111 (folding 6x9) s/n J26xxx (~1924), Tessar CZJ 10,5cm f4,5 s/n 489xxx (~1922), Compur 330xxx.
    _ Trona 212 (folding 9x12) s/n J74xxx (~1924), Tessar CZJ 13,5cm f4,5 s/n 599xxx (~1923), Compur 375xxx.
    _ Orix 308 (folding 10x15) s/n J79xxx '~1924), Doppel-Amatar 16,5cm f6,8 s/n 362xxx, Compur 288xxx.
    _ Ideal 325 (folding 10x15) s/n K68xxx (~1925), Tessar CZJ 16,5cm f4,5 s/n 623xxx (~1923), Compur 393xxx.

    Following letter , L, is for the first Zeiss Ikon cameras made in 1926.
     
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