Phochron XA shutter speed tester

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  1. adelorenzo

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    I was a Kickstarter backer and my Phochron XA shutter speed tester arrived last week. I found it really easy to use and seems like an all around great tool for those of us who shoot old film cameras. (NB: I have no affiliation with this product)

    It was a bit of an eye opener testing some of my shutters. knew that my Nikkor-W 135mm was having shutter issues but I really didn't know how bad it was until I tested them. Basically none of the speeds are reliable. I also found out that my Mamiya C330 80mm lens is consistently a stop slow. Both of those shutters are now on their way to get serviced.

    Fortunately the rest of my Copal large format shutters checked out.
     
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    I agree! Hours of 'that's really out!' fun...

    Very easy & intuitive to use

    Marc!
     
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    Thanks, guys... as the creator, I found the project to be very frustrating, exciting, time consuming, rewarding, and educational all at the same time. I am now working hard to build the 30 extra I had included when I launched the Kickstarter reward build. I have a waiting list already wanting more than that. So I've got to start working on the next production run.
    I did start a facebook group for those that would like to post photos of their setup and discuss use of the tester. I'd love to hear more of your experiences with it.
     
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    Hi bergytone, I just sent off an email to you, hope you will have some to sell soon.

    Mike
     
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    Hey Mike,
    I am working toward getting some production units built. I built an extra 30 during the Kicstarter run, but I have a waiting list that is that big already. So now I'm planning the next build. Keep in mind that this is not my full time job, so there's only a certain amount of free hours in the week to do this. Thanks for your interest. and I'll definitely be contacting you.
    Eric
     
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    So is there a price on these?

    - Leigh
     
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    on Eric's site:

    119$/139$ (without/with external sensor)
     
  8. mike c

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    Sounds good Eric, please give us a call when you are ready.
     
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    agreed this looks great. I would like one when there is supply
     
  10. Leigh B

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    What light source do you use?

    Could you post a mechanical drawing of the sensor configuration?

    - Leigh
     
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    See here: upload_2017-5-5_8-56-33.png
     
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    Looks good. Thanks.

    - Leigh
     
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    I am very pleased with my Phochron XA.
     
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    I allso bought one, and it works fine. Tested 2 TLR Rollie's and my 50mm, 80mm Hasselblad lens mounted on camera, but could not measure the 150mm lens while mounted on body with the optional light source , will try a more brighter light source later this week. Fairly easy to use, meter gives 2 readings one in fractions and one in decimal. With the op. light probe it is important to line it up to the lens axis, it has a function to do this properly in the test shutter menu. My 150mm just sets further away than the 80mm, so a stronger light source is needed, I,m thinking a flashlight will do. . All in all I think it is nice little unit and built well.

    Mike
     
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    Add in another positive review from me. Great tool to have.
     
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    I'm glad all of you are having success with my tester. If any of you are facebook users, I have a facebook group set up to share your set up photos and tips on using the meter. Just search for "Phochron XA" in the search window. I am starting my next production run of these now, and I hope to market them through amazon and possibly through distribution. Mike C, I received an email from another user (Carl B of Canada) regarding his testing of a Hasselblad :

    "Last night I tested a 150mm hasselblad lens using your tester. The end result it worked perfectly. I actually tested two 150mm lens to see the variation and to see if they were close to one another. Here is how I completed the process.

    150mm lens attached to the hasselblad body. Set the aperture to widest, as in my lens it was F4. Remove the film back. Set up the tester to be aligned to the front of the lens. Note, the light that comes with the sensor is not strong enough, so I used a pocket sized led flash light. Place the flashlight behind the rear baffle/blind about one inch distance from the baffle. Do not touch the baffle as they are easily damaged.Cock the camera, set the shutter speed, flash light on, release the shutter. You will see a nice square wave form on the tester screen.

    VERY IMPORTANT. WHEN TESTING THE SLOWER SHUTTER SPEEDS, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT NOT TO RELEASE THE SHUTTER BUTTON TOO EARLY AS THE BLIND CAN CLOSE BEFORE THE SHUTTER HAS COMPLETED ITS TIMER. THIS IS WHAT HAPPENED TO ME DURING THE HALF SECOND SHUTTER SPEED TEST. I RELEASED THE SHUTTER BUTTON EARLY.ENSURE YOU DO NOT RELEASE THE SHUTTER BUTTON TOO EARLY ON THE SLOW SPEED SETTING AND YOU WILL GET ACCURATE MEASUREMENTS.
    The test results were very consistent and repeatable for each shutter speed."

    Note that he tested the Hassy with the light source in the rear. What ever you do, never put anything into the body. The blind can come down and be damaged.
    Thanks again for your support, all of my feedback so far has been positive, except for some feedback on the US postal service!
     
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    Thanks for the reply bergytone,I thought that a regular flash light would word but have not got around to using one yet.I have been using the sensor at the back of the camera and seems to works well for me, at any rate it is a good tool.
     
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    I've found a great way to test older shutters, up to 1/125th-ish anyway. My video camera does 120fps. I shoot a few actuations, open the video file, and count the frames and do the math. These days, many cameras have slow motion video. I dialed in my toy cameras (Hawkeye, etc) and an Isolette III that I brought back from the dead.

    Particularly for the Isolette, knowing the true speeds (handily, everything is about 1/2 the speed stated) has been cool. I had no idea an Isolette with an Apotar lens could give such a punchy neg.
     
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    Will it test 1/500 sec. accurately? I want to get one for my LF Copal shutters!
     
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    are these available for purchase?
     
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    nice tool bergy.
     
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    I am having problem testing the shutter speed of cameras in automatic mode like the EM. You would need a light source that simulate the correct brightness to get the camera to set at the correct shutter speed and the tester must work with that level of light.
     
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    This is not a matter of sensor location (as you referered to a respective photo), but of light source. Actually such is a different kind of tester.
    A shutter speed tester in the proper meaning only tests the shutter, not a exposure automatic.
     
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    Has anyone tried to purchase one of these recently? I'm not getting a response to my emails or phone message.
     
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