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joeyk49

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I just picked up 300' of Pan F 50...just because it was cheap and I've never used it. I plan to start playing with a few rolls in my Minolta X700 very soon. I know little to nothing about the film.

My questions are:

What do you like/dislike about the film? Characteristics, etc.
What were you successes? Architecture? People? Landscape, etc???
What situations provided disappointment and why?
 

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It's very slow, so it is used mostly for still subject matter. Use caution in developing to avoid over-development.
 

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A wonderful fine grained film. You'll find plenty of fans of it here.
 
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How about the moon?

It's in the camera and I just found out that there's to be a lunar eclsipse tonight. It might be too slow...but if I use a long shutter speed..1/2 to 1 sec??? I'm using a 500mm mirror at f8, I believe...

I'm planning to blow through the 50 and then load HP5...whadaya think about 3200???

Ideas? Fool's folly?
 

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Lovely lush tones, runs a bit contrasty. Sharp and very fine-grained. Great for landscape, people, architecture ... but it is slow. Excellent in Ilfosol, Rodinal, XTOL ...

Dislikes? Not available in sheet film, discontinued soon.
 

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I love this film, it's probably my favorite with the exception of APX100 (although I haven't tried all the Efke fims yet). I think it looks good for pretty much everything, great skin tones for portraiture. Developed in Rodinal 1:50 is a great combo. -Grant
 

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I use it in 35mm for all kinds of static subjects. For me it produces outstanding results in Rodinal 1-50
 

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joeyk49 said:
What do you like/dislike about the film? Characteristics, etc.
What were you successes? Architecture? People? Landscape, etc???
What situations provided disappointment and why?

I have used it for portraits and still life. Nice tones and sharpness and very small grain. I have to say to hans that this film is GREAT in Rodinal!

Morten
 

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A wonderful fine grained film with great sharpness and detail resolution. Try using it for landscapes and process with an accutance developer like Neofin Bleu: the effects can be breath taking. It also makes a great film for making copy negs from prints, rated at ISO 25 and pull processed to keep contrast down. People tell me that you can also subject it to reversal processing to make high definition B&W slides. I have never tried that, but would be interested to hear if anyone else has.
The down side, obviously, is the speed. Don't expect to be able to hand hold in anything but good light. That said, it is easier to use than Tech-Pan. I remember hand holding quite happily with a deep red filter on the lens, in the Jordanian Desert.


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Woolliscroft said:
It also makes a great film for making copy negs from prints, rated at ISO 25 and pull processed to keep contrast down.

I do this, too! Damn good reproduction! I use two flash heads in 45 degrees angle on both sides of the print being copied. This way I can shoot pin sharp and handholding when doing copy work (I do not have copy stand). Hand holding when copying is great and fast.

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It's one of my favorite all time films. It can get a little contrasty if you aren't careful. Beautiful grey tones.
 

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I'll add my vote for this film and it's also my favourite. Like Morten said souped in Rodinal it really glows !!
 

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I'll add my vote as well - Pan F Plus in 1:50 Rodinal rocks! One thing though, my exposures typically run several seconds and I learned pretty quickly to pay attention to Ilford's reciprocity chart in order to avoid underexposure.

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I shoot 120 PanF at speed in the bright California sunlight, mostly beach and beach town architecture.

Rodinal 1+200 stand developed for 90 minutes. Comes out... sureal. The shadows come up, the highlights are never blown out. Graphic.

tim in san jose
 

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k_jupiter said:
I shoot 120 PanF at speed in the bright California sunlight, mostly beach and beach town architecture.

Rodinal 1+200 stand developed for 90 minutes. Comes out... sureal. The shadows come up, the highlights are never blown out. Graphic.

tim in san jose
More details on this stand development. What was the temp? how long did you agitate when you did agitate? This blonde rooted one needs all the help I can get. that and I have a 6 year old bottle of unopened rodinal.
 

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Aggie said:
More details on this stand development. What was the temp? how long did you agitate when you did agitate? This blonde rooted one needs all the help I can get. that and I have a 6 year old bottle of unopened rodinal.

All development is at 68 degrees. I agitate for the first 30 seconds, then go watch Monty Python. I set up a bath at 68 degrees on hot or cold days to keep the developer fairly constant. It's easier though if you have a room approx. that temp.

Timer hits 90 minutes, I dump the developer, rinse with water and use an ammonia based fixer.

The old Rodinal shouldn't be an issue.

P.S. we like blond rooted ones. They're cute. It helps if they are intelligent too.

tim (not really sexist) in san jose
 

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k_jupiter said:
All development is at 68 degrees. I agitate for the first 30 seconds, then go watch Monty Python. I set up a bath at 68 degrees on hot or cold days to keep the developer fairly constant. It's easier though if you have a room approx. that temp.

Timer hits 90 minutes, I dump the developer, rinse with water and use an ammonia based fixer.

The old Rodinal shouldn't be an issue.

P.S. we like blond rooted ones. They're cute. It helps if they are intelligent too.

tim (not really sexist) in san jose

Tim, the question is... Which Monty Python? They're all so good, but "Menaing of Life" has to be my favorite (when the "lady" is cleaning the husband's "lens"... classic) . I need to try this stand development, sounds interesting. -Grant
 
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So...does that make Rodinal the "Holy Hand Grenade"???

Judging by this threat its surely not SPAM!!!hmmm. Eggs, bacon, cheese and Rodinal....nope, doesn't work...

..."and now for something completely Rodinal..." Now that might work!
 
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oops...meant thread...Jim Beams' making fingers somewaht fumbly...
 

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Pan-F

Pan-F is a lovely film but it has one interesting characteristic.It has a short hold time. If you expose part of a roll and leave it in the the camera for a couple of months and then finish the roll the earlier exposures will be visibly less dense that the later ones- more so than I have noticed with other films.
 

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Aggie said:
More details on this stand development. What was the temp? how long did you agitate when you did agitate? This blonde rooted one needs all the help I can get. that and I have a 6 year old bottle of unopened rodinal.

Aggie;

I have used Pan F, Efke 25 and, sob the late departed Agfa 25 at a dilution of 1:100 with good results. Temp 68F/20C for 18 minutes, minimal agitation with one inversion every 60 second. Even tried it with Tri-X.

- Mike
 

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Mike I guess what I really want to find is a good linear fine grained film that i can use a high acutance developer with.

BTW when are we going out shooting?
 

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Monty Python and Rodinal...

There exists three episode tapes of many of the MP shows. I prefer the one that has "Confuse the Cat". Anyhow, three shows equals 90 minutes or so.

Many ways to skin a cat. This is just one. What I do with Efke25 is very different and doesn't involve Agfa developers.


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k_jupiter said:
I shoot 120 PanF at speed in the bright California sunlight, mostly beach and beach town architecture.

Rodinal 1+200 stand developed for 90 minutes. Comes out... sureal. The shadows come up, the highlights are never blown out. Graphic.

At what ISO are you rating it? I want to try thsi approach
 

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Morten,

By at speed, I mean manufactures rated speed. I.E. ISO 50 in this case. Any pulling and your negatives get very dense, very fast. Any pushing and there isn't enough shadow in the latent image to get developed. Of course, your milage will vary according to your metering technique and shutter speed accuracy.

tim in san jose
 
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