Pan F+ in D76 1+3?

[Josh Harmon]

Hello!

This past weekend I shot 4 rolls of Pan F+. I plan to develop them now. My question is that I am a bit low on developer and I was wondering if there is a problem with Pan F+ and D76 1+3?

On the box Ilford does not label times for that dilution.

I know it will increase the sharpness and grain (w/ Pan F+ what grain?).

I can get a fresh pack of D76 soonish but I dont want to drive 40 minutes out of my way right now.


Thanks in advance!

 

[Keith Tapscott.]

The fact-sheet for that dilution can be down-loaded from this page.
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/product.asp?n=5&t=Consumer+&+Professional+Films

 

[marco.taje]

You should be really fine with that! Just watch for some minimum stock solution quantity; somewhere around here I read that having less than 100ml is somewhat risky. That should give you 400ml of developer.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

... I can get a fresh pack of D76 soonish but I dont want to drive 40 minutes out of my way right now. ...

Josh

It will work, but why not stick to your standard development. Are the pictures you took so unimportant that convenience becomes a priority and you're a willing to take a risk? Why the rush? I don't understand the motivation.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

The fact-sheet for that dilution can be down-loaded from this page.
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/product.asp?n=5&t=Consumer+&+Professional+Films

Interesting that they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different. :confused:

 

[marco.taje]

They actually do, Ralph
Just check the "fiml development chart" instead of the individual fact sheet for panf. Same times as D76, though.

 

[Anon Ymous]

Interesting that they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different. :confused:

The times and dilutions for D76 and ID11 are exactly the same in this datasheet. Did I miss something else?

 

[marco.taje]

if you read this: http://www.ilfordphoto.com/Webfiles/2006216122447.pdf
there are indeed some slight differences in time for id11 and d76 for some films and dilutions.. Not for PANF, anyway.

 

[Keith Tapscott.]

Interesting that they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different. :confused:

That publication does give the times for both ID-11 and D-76 diluted 1+3.

At 1+3 E.I.25 the times quoted are 12':30" and at E.I.50, the times quoted are 15':00" at 20*C for both developers.
You must have the older publication.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

The fact-sheet for that dilution can be down-loaded from this page.
http://www.ilfordphoto.com/products/product.asp?n=5&t=Consumer+&+Professional+Films

Keith

I've got the right publication, but my statement should have been:

Interesting that for FP4 they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different.

That's puzzling.

 

[pentaxuser]

Keith

I've got the right publication, but my statement should have been:

Interesting that for FP4 they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different.

That's puzzling.

Ralph you are quite right on the film development spec sheets but Ilford do show times for both ID11 and D76 at the dilutions mentioned on its ID11 developer specs. There are a few areas where it might pay someone from Ilford to cross check all its publications and make sure that any "holes" are filled.

pentaxuser

 

[Keith Tapscott.]

Keith

I've got the right publication, but my statement should have been:

Interesting that for FP4 they show a time for D76 1+3 but not for ID11. Also the times for D76 and ID11 are different.

That's puzzling.

Ralph, I see what you mean now. I thought you was referring only to the current Pan F Plus fact-sheet.
The times are different for both FP4 Plus and HP5 Plus in ID-11 and D-76. However, I only ever use the tech-pubs as a starting point and I have established my own times for those two films over the years that I've used them. I use D-76 diluted 1+1 for both films.
There might possibly be slight differences in the formulae of the Kodak and Ilford developers, but whether you are able to measure those differences is another matter.

 

[Josh Harmon]

Thanks for the replies!

I have about 30oz of developer left, I have not developed Pan F+ myself, as I shoot mostly Arista EDU films which I develop 1+1 with D76. I now from having used Pan F+ a few times before (lab processed) that it has very fine grain, so I was thinking that the accutance gained from using a more dilute d76 would be good.

My only fear would be that it was too diluted and not develop, but as I see that Ilford posted times on their website for 1+3 dilution (Not on the inside of the box) I shall go ahead and develop them. I use 20oz diluted developer (albeit 1+1 or 1+3) for 1 roll of film (120), in my tank. All my rolls are 120 size.

Thanks again!

Josh