No, I'm not a hoarder. Really! Velvia question.

[nsurit]

I'm going to use some Velvia 120 roll film to photograph a project. The question is, do I use the RVP50 which expired in 2012, the RVP 100F which expired in 2005 or the RVP 100 which has an expiration date of 2016. All film has been refrigerated since purchase. This is a personal project and the results will only be important to me. So the question is do I use the newest or oldest film? Or perhaps, is it very likely the 2005, properly handled film, will not produce a useable result?

 

[Alan9940]

If it were me and a particular rendering of the film palette didn't matter, then I'd shoot a test roll of the oldest film stock to ensure it's still good. Then, I'd use that film for my project.

 

[trendland]

I'm going to use some Velvia 120 roll film to photograph a project. The question is, do I use the RVP50 which expired in 2012, the RVP 100F which expired in 2005 or the RVP 100 which has an expiration date of 2016. All film has been refrigerated since purchase. This is a personal project and the results will only be important to me. So the question is do I use the newest or oldest film? Or perhaps, is it very likely the 2005, properly handled film, will not produce a useable result?

You can't be absolute sure if the films were refrigerated correctly the whole time. Instead you have them from the very beginning.
If this is the case everything is OK with all
films.
Otherwise you should handle your films as "non refrigerated".
So your RVP100/2016 is almost "safe".
And your RVP50/2012 may be also OK - perhaps it is indeed refrigerated to some
months/some years.But hands of from your 2005 films before extensive tests.

Whow many films we are talking about?

The possible guarantee to real refrigerated films at ebay are proffessional photographers.You simple
identyfie them due to their film stock :
20 x 4x5 Velvia50, 4 x 8x10 Provia100,
30 x Kodak Ektachrome 100G 120 (5x120) = 150 films. Mostly they shoot a picture from the refrigerator a.s.o.
Thats no 100% guarantee it can also be a fake - but I would like to say : This is the true to 99%.
Everything else is russian roulette.

with regards

PS : I bought 6 packs 20x120 Ektachrome expired with different dates 2001 , 2002 - 2005.
Some have little color shifts, some have bad colors it is depending to the dates.
A couple of charges are quite good.
Let me say 30 - 40 % are OK.
But I bought it to $ 80 to all films some years ago if I remember correct.So it was great....

 

[DREW WILEY]

Hard to say. Old color film that has been kept frozen might be fine if shot and procesed reasonably soon after thawing. But it seems to shift faster than fresh film once it is thawed. I'd never buy film that was re-frozen after the foil pack is broken, like a partial box of sheet film. And ten years post-date is about the limit for me. And I'd never buy old high-speed film.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I'm going to use some Velvia 120 roll film to photograph a project. The question is, do I use the RVP50 which expired in 2012, the RVP 100F which expired in 2005 or the RVP 100 which has an expiration date of 2016. All film has been refrigerated since purchase. This is a personal project and the results will only be important to me. So the question is do I use the newest or oldest film? Or perhaps, is it very likely the 2005, properly handled film, will not produce a useable result?

RVP50 w/ 2012 expiry: Five years out, it might be on the margin. If refrigerated, it will be OK, but there is some risk. If it is shelf-stored, not so certain. I have recently exposed a 120 roll of RVP50 expired 11/2012. It has been frozen over that time since given to me by another APUG member. I will collect it this week for examination.

RVP 100F w/ expiry of 2005: 100F is a 'severe' (and much derided) emulsion in terms of its very contrasty, garish palette (brownish reds, mustard yellows and pasty greens), and especially the odd green tinge in shadow areas (as opposed to RVP50's neutral/black and Provia's blue). The red channel is especially strong and prone to shift, but the whole palette is disturbing. The emulsion is likely casted/lossy (speed) at this age, irrespective of storage. My guess is it would have a significant colour shift and speed loss, but is worth exposing in a non-critical application at 2-3 EIs beside 100 (EI80, EI125), and deliberate 0.5 stop over- and underexposure as a means to understand what happens to one of these emulsions that are significantly out-of-date, irrespective of whether it has been refrigerated, frozen or bench-stored. Note that RVP100F does not share any similarities with RVP50 / 100 or any of the Provia emulsions. Kep notes of your exposures for reference at the lightbox.

RVP100F w/ expiry of 2016: Not a problem.