New instant packfilm project by Florian Kaps

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    This is interesting and I may consider supporting it. I would like more substance, more, technical details, and fewer "superhero" references.
     
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    Wow, and I had thought that project was dead as a doornail.
     
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    Good Luck!
     
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    It is easy to be a Superhero when living on the ideas of others.
     
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    Nice!

    Packfilm is what got me back into photography several years back. I have my packfilm stash that I need to shoot though I’ve been hesitant just because I want it to last.

    I’ll donate on Kickstarter when it opens up.
     
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    This is more of a packaging project than a chemistry project. Impossible/Polaroid Originals already has an instant film product (yes, not yet as good as the real Polaroid or Fuji instant film).

    They just need to recreate the packfilm packaging and image transfer process.
     
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    Yes, they make an extraordinary effort to produce 8x10 film for which the market must be very small so I don't see why they couldn't, for instance, use the same techology and combine it into a sheet type package for 4x5; I have even taped Instax and Impossible film into re-purposed orginal Polaroid sheet envelopes, sort of works. That would be a great solution for 4x5 users with all those 405 holders around and an ever diminishing supply of Polaroid sheet film. Maybe they could use the ashes of the New 55 project for that.

    For pack film, looks more challenging but again might be able to use their current technology, again like the separate 8x10 system and combine the negative and positive transfer sheet within the smaller pack unit.
     
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    meh... kickstarter is not a good sign. usually that means half-baked ideas, no money/resources, and basically cyber-begging based on future promises. Not exactly a stunning list of talent on their site either (yet). And without any machinery, they either need a huge amount of funding to build/buy the machinery, or else a fairly large amount of funding and some reliable vendors to outsource all of that sort of thing (production tooling, injection molding, etc.)
     
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    Florian 'Doc' Kaps is the founder of Impossible Project. So he's got that going for him.
     
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    still meh. IP has yet to turn out anything worth their asking price, even given the machinery, tooling and experience/expertise they inherited. If they ever make anything worth buying I'd be a customer, but until then, a skeptic.
     
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    I totally undertand. I'm not a fan of IP, but the newer PO stuff is much better.. but still not there.

    I'm less skeptical with him than I am about a certain re-seller that says they're going to do it.
     
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    I wish him the best of luck. But I'll have a hard time putting much credence in it unless and until he's able to get beyond the arm-waving and spell out concretely what are the raw materials and equipment he needs to acquire and what are the R&D problems he needs to solve to get from here to there, and how he plans to do it. Take a lesson from the way Bob Crowley communicated about New55.

    If he prefers to keep us all in suspense, then by all means let him find some angel investor to pay for it, and surprise us with the finished product. But if he wants to Kickstart it...
     
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    If Fuji, who had the perfect product, all ready developed, best manufacturing and technologists can't make it go. I'm not holding out much hope. First time I tried IP film in my SX-70 on the 3rd shot the pod exploded as it was passing through the rollers getting blue goo all over. I'm waiting for a Instax with a Zeiss lens :smile:
     
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    Fuji *could* have kept doing packfilm, they chose not to (a-holes. I still don't forgive them for that), in order to pimp their instax crap.
     
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    Instax for packfilm cameras. Why not?
     
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