Mixed some blix with stabilizer...

duparis00 · Mar 25, 2014

Hey All,

So I was going my 6th roll of film and just finished the blix stage. I had a brain fart and put the funner on the stabilizer bottle 30 seconds earlier, and when I reached to pour out the blix I poured maybe 1/3 of the bottle into the stabilizer bottle. I realized just in time to put the 2/3 left into the blix bottle.

My question is...is the stabilizer now useless, and is the entire process chain compromised if I no longer have stabilizer?

Gerald C Koch · Mar 25, 2014

The stabilizer is toast.

duparis00 · Mar 26, 2014

Oyy....time for a new kit. Thanks for the heads up!

JoJo · Mar 26, 2014

Gerald C Koch said:
The stabilizer is toast.

You can do C-41 without stabilizer, if you don't need archival negatives for the next 50 years.
And you can also stabilize the film later after you have new chemicals available.
BUT you cannot do the process without the Blix (which is also toast).

Joachim

CatLABS · Mar 26, 2014

You can buy seperate stab (from sprint - end run) but the stuff you have now is dead.

Robert Ley · Mar 26, 2014

You should not be exposing your JOBO reels to the stabilizer. In the future find a liter size plastic container with a lid...think Tupperware, for your stabilizer. The stabilizer will last a long time in a closed container and just remove the film from the reels and place in the stabilizer and hang to dry.

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duparis00 · Mar 26, 2014

JoJo said:
You can do C-41 without stabilizer, if you don't need archival negatives for the next 50 years.
And you can also stabilize the film later after you have new chemicals available.
BUT you cannot do the process without the Blix (which is also toast).

Joachim

Oh that's good to know. Well I only poured 1/3 of the blix into the stabilizer, I realized before I poured the remaining 2/3 and got that in the right bottle. If anything I can still do single rolls.

Yeah I order some stabilizer...very good to know I can do it later.

duparis00 · Mar 26, 2014

Robert Ley said:
You should not be exposing your JOBO reels to the stabilizer. In the future find a liter size plastic container with a lid...think Tupperware, for your stabilizer. The stabilizer will last a long time in a closed container and just remove the film from the reels and place in the stabilizer and hang to dry.

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I'm using the metal reels and container, does that still apply?

duparis00 · Mar 26, 2014

Thx! It's been poured out. I'm shooting a lot of expired film right now so I was going to finish the solution with expired film, after scans I won't need to keep them anyway. But I'm happy to know I can still do stab later on.

Rudeofus · Mar 27, 2014

Robert Ley said:
You should not be exposing your JOBO reels to the stabilizer. In the future find a liter size plastic container with a lid...think Tupperware, for your stabilizer. The stabilizer will last a long time in a closed container and just remove the film from the reels and place in the stabilizer and hang to dry.

I have read this over and over again, but for some reason that problem has never popped up in my work, and I've developed hundreds of rolls of color film, all in a few Jobo inversion tanks with plastic reels. At the same time I can not imagine how I could submerge a whole roll of 35mm film in any small container without sections of that film sticking together in such a way that no stabilizer can reach the emulsion. The sheer amount of pulling required to get the whole emulsion properly stabilized this way may well scratch the film or get Formalin on your skin - not a good idea.

Mixed some blix with stabilizer...

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