I have a question for the Lith printers out there. I was trying some printing over the weekend. I tryed two or three different developers Ansco 70, Wall's Normal Hydroquinon and Kodak 85. I tryed these with Arista II VC RC, Varycon VC RC, EDU Ultra VC RC and Kentemere WT VC FB. All papers in the Ansco 70 came out a nice warm brown in the shadow areas but the highlights were very dark. I could get no contrast at all. I tryed long exposure long dev, short exposure long dev, long exposure short dev. I even had a 5+ filter in and still very "foggy looking". I did try a safelight test and no problems. I also tryed several different dilutions. The Wall's normal was the worst. I don't know if is because there is no restainer in it? Please don't give me the pat answer "Read Tim Rudmans Book". That is not an option for me. No money. Do you think these papers are just not suited to Lith or am I missing somthing. I thought I read that The Varycon was at least supposed to work. The print I tryed had mostly snow in it and still came out gray.