interesting szabad camera + 2x apo lanthar

[medform-norm]

http://www.tradera.com/auction/Samlar__aldre/aid_13436220

perhaps someone finds this an interesting offer?

I suppose you'd need a Swedish Apug member to arrange this deal, as mr. Akroyd is only selling inside Sweden.
Don't know if this is 'not-done' to suggest this, but I supposed Apug-members would not mind helping eachother out. Or would they?

Greetings,
medform-norm

 

[removed account4]

szabads are great cameras.
they are built well, have long bellows, and fold up small.
i have 2 szabads a 5x7 and 8x10, and wouldn't trade them off for
anything else. the 9x12 was common in sweden and built into the 60s.

http://www.tradera.com/auction/Samlar__aldre/aid_13436220

perhaps someone finds this an interesting offer?

I suppose you'd need a Swedish Apug member to arrange this deal, as mr. Akroyd is only selling inside Sweden.
Don't know if this is 'not-done' to suggest this, but I supposed Apug-members would not mind helping eachother out. Or would they?

Greetings,
medform-norm

 

[medform-norm]

szabads are great cameras.
they are built well, have long bellows, and fold up small.
i have 2 szabads a 5x7 and 8x10, and wouldn't trade them off for
anything else. the 9x12 was common in sweden and built into the 60s.

Yes, the camera sure looks nice. I doubt if I would want to buy it, though. Just sold my Linhof Technika last Xmas to make room for other things. Buying this Szabad now would not make much sense ;-) - especially since our house needs a new roof (hmmpf)... Ah, but we all know about camera addictions, don't we?

Medform-Norm

 

[medform-norm]

szabads are great cameras.
they are built well, have long bellows, and fold up small.
i have 2 szabads a 5x7 and 8x10, and wouldn't trade them off for
anything else. the 9x12 was common in sweden and built into the 60s.

I exchanged mails with mr. Akroyd. He understands/writes English. I don't think he would be unwilling to sell to non-Swedes. It just never occured to him people outside of Sweden would want his camera....(how can that be?)...so he formatted the add likewise and cannot change it now that someone has bid on it. But I suppose: if you want it, go for it!

BTW: Szabad means Free (in Hungarian - it's also the last name of the maker). What a beautiful name for a camera.

 

[Ole]

I have to admit I'm tempted... But no. I have enough LF cameras and enough "historic" lenses. At the moment, at least.

 

[medform-norm]

I have to admit I'm tempted... But no. I have enough LF cameras and enough "historic" lenses. At the moment, at least.

Ah, Ole! And you live so close! The shipping costs would be negligable. I was secretly counting on you for a while. Look at it this way: if you don't like it after all, you could sell it to one of us here on APUG....

( - I hope this auction in Sweden ends soon, I myself have to steer away from it quite badly ----two Apo-Lanthars! Wow. And still so cheap....---but that darned roof. Why could I NOT thatch my roof with old Agfa clacks & clicks? They'd be cheaper than new tiles ;-)

 

[Ole]

Ah, Ole! And you live so close! The shipping costs would be negligable. I was secretly counting on you for a while. Look at it this way: if you don't like it after all, you could sell it to one of us here on APUG....

Ah yes, it's only about 1000km. I could probably get there and back in three days, unless I stop to take pictures on the way. And then there's the problem of money - why am I always short of spending money when I find something interesting?
It doesn't help at all that I have a perfect shutter for a 210/4.5 APO-Lanthar, and a not-quite-perfect 150/4.5 APO-Lanthar, and a scratched 90/6.8 Angulon with perfect shutter, and 250 shets of APX 100 in 9x12cm...

 

[removed account4]

if anyone is interested - i have attached a pdf regarding the background of Szilárd Szabad and the cameras he made.

 

[medform-norm]

if anyone is interested - i have attached a pdf regarding the background of Szilárd Szabad and the cameras he made.

Hé thanks, that was interesting reading. You must be a real Szabad fan. It somehow doesn't surprise me Szabad came from Transsylvania. Still today, some of the best & most versatile workmen come from this region. In fact, the guy who will help to fix our roof is Transsylvanian!

And Ole, I feel sooo sorry for you. I completely empathize...

 

[removed account4]

Hé thanks, that was interesting reading. You must be a real Szabad fan. It somehow doesn't surprise me Szabad came from Transsylvania. Still today, some of the best & most versatile workmen come from this region. In fact, the guy who will help to fix our roof is Transsylvanian!

And Ole, I feel sooo sorry for you. I completely empathize...

yeah, i am a big fan!
i got my 5x7 from a dealer in boston, and have been using it since the early 1990s. i have no idea how they happened upon it, but just the same it was kind of a happy thing. then, i was surfing ebay, and happened upon an 8x10 szabad, and being insane, i decided to buy it. i had no idea that the owner was a second owner ( has a commercial studio in nyc ) and his former boss bought it back in the 1960s together with a second. again, kind of a happy accident.

both cameras are overbuilt and just beautiful. i wish i could use another, i am sure the 9x12 would be very happy with its american cousins
but too many other things to buy and not enough money to go around. no no roof is needed on our house, but 11 cubic meters of mulch to spread around the yard.

 

[medform-norm]

Also, can anyone translate this into English? It looks like it says something about there being fungus on the 90mm and I don't know what it says about the other lenses--of course I can't read any Swedish at all (is that even the language it is in?) and my just be looking at false cognates.

Jeremy, my Swedish is not perfect and I can understand the spoken version better than the written one, but I'm dead sure 'fungerar' has nothing to do with 'fungus' and all the more with 'functioning'. So there seems to be an issue with the lenses, but perhaps more with the mechanics of the shutter rather than the glass. But if Ole gets here, he might be able to help you out.

BTW: what IS the budget you're speaking off?

 

[medform-norm]

HI Jeremy,
I just received this mail from Sven-Erik:

I think you may be right about people outside Sweden could bid if they
are members of Tradera. I saw that somebody was asking for a translation
of my text!
SZABAD STUDIO- AND PORTABLE CAMERA FOR PROFESSIONAL PHOTOGRAPHERS. THIS IS SWEDISH CAMERA HISTORY.
This is a SZABAD 9x12 camera, manufactured sometimes between 1952 and 1962 in Stockholm.

Some history.
(Here he relates basically what has already been said here in the PDF from jnanian, so I'll skip this)

The camera I'm selling is a 9x12 cm. It is well preserved, with serialnumber 1457. The camera comes with 3 lenses.

Schneider-Kreuznach Angulon 1:6,8/90. Ser.num 3216222 This lens is working perfect.

Voigtländer Braunschweis Apo-Lanthar 1:4,5/21 cm. Ser.num 3178976
The flashligth synch is not working.

Voigtländer Braunschweis Apo Lanthar 1:4/15 cm. Ser.num 3432610
The shutter works on and of.

All three lenses is completely clear and clean and has no scratch marks.
10 original Wooden filmholders for 9x12 cm.
Best regards/Sven-Erik

So, there you go. Bid price now stand at a little over 400$ - and IMHO that's a bargain with these lenses. I saw a single Apo 150mm on ePrey and it alone cost over $400 already. In fact, jnanian, you might be able to buy this Szabad, sell one of the lenses and have some profit as well. You might even be able to finance the mulch with the Apo...

Regards, medform-norm

 

[removed account4]

thanks medform-norm -

i was good - not buying lenses + cameras, i think i made it for more than a year ( sigh ) until i saw this portrait lens dagor77 was selling on ZFEEbay, and then JG Motamedi had to post lenses + books ... i couldn't help myself - and fell off the wagon.

as tempting as this beautiful camera, lenses &c is i **better** sit this one out, the mortgage payment is due soon

oh, from the serial # i think it was built in 1957

- - john

HI Jeremy,
I just received this mail from Sven-Erik:



So, there you go. Bid price now stand at a little over 400$ - and IMHO that's a bargain with these lenses. I saw a single Apo 150mm on ePrey and it alone cost over $400 already. In fact, jnanian, you might be able to buy this Szabad, sell one of the lenses and have some profit as well. You might even be able to finance the mulch with the Apo...

Regards, medform-norm

 

[David A. Goldfarb]

Does look like a nice camera and some nice lenses. A 210 Apo-Lanthar could fetch a pretty penny on its own, even in a shutter that needs work.

 

[Jeremy]

Deleted my messages as I am no longer interested in the camera having gone down another route which was much better for the wallet