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Discussion in 'Ethics and Philosophy' started by gr82bart, Oct 31, 2005.
So which would you rather have - a trick or a treat? Why?
I love candy!
Too bad we don't have Halloween here.
(atleast we have a three week carnival where you get to dress and go to parties - for three weeks)
i would rather not have to go to the dentist more than a few times a year
I just asked the wife if I dressed up in a costume and had a goody bag would she drop a handful of LF brassies in. She said all she could promise was some stale candy corn and maybe a Mounds bar. <sigh>
I would prefer a trick. I like sex more than candy. tim
Why is sex a "trick" and not a "treat"?
When I said candy, I didn't mean only just ones made of sugar and chocolate...
in street slang with prostitutes a trick is sex
More specifically, a "trick" is a paying customer..... I'll take a trick, and go buy some treats.......
All that makes the custom of children going from door to door and asking for just that a bit suspect...
Or are they just tricking you into thinking it's sex.
These kids now-a-days.
Yeah, I'll take the snickers bite sized. For some strange reason, I always associate the "trick" in Halloween with seeing Detroit on fire.
This is what I tell my kids about life in general...it might apply to you and your brassies.
"You get what you get, and you don't throw a fit."
Now, if you had asked for a different *KIND* of treat, she might have been more receptive.
I see we prefer treats over tricks. Does this mean we are acually materialistic? Philosophical debate - begin...
Trick....I tend to be a prankster with my inner circle of friends and relatives. So, I guess I'm living by "Do unto others..."
The truth is I never understood it:
When kids go to a door dressed in costumes and they ask for a "trick or treat" what
is the "trick" supposed to mean? After all, they collect the candy, don't they?
I'd rather have neither, I don't want other people's brats begging at my door.
It's more of a demand, couched as a request. In all fun the kids are visiting you and giving you the choice...provide a treat or you recieve a trick...
I'm not sure on the exact origins of the custom, but I think that the kids, dress up and good naturedly represent spirits that the occupants of the home buy off with a treat (or tith or bribe or sacrifice, depending on how you wan toto view it). If no treat is forthcomming, the spirits stay to haunt the home...
Hallowe'en has it's origins in the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain.
The Jack o lantern was originally used in the British Isles and was a hollowed out turnip with a face carved into it to frighten away evil spirits. When people arrived in the New World they found pumpkins easier to hollow out and so used those.
Trick or Treat originated in Ireland. Hallowe'en came close to the feast of St Columba when people would go from door-to-door collecting bread, money, eggs, nuts and apples. It was felt that these offerings gave protection against bad luck. [font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Nowadays, this practice is known as "Trick or Treat", with the household which gives the least offering liable to have a "trick" carried out against it.
Of course, all of this is now lost in the crass commercial claptrap that All Hallows Eve, or Hallowe'en, has become.
When my children were young I would joking refer to the ritual as "teaching my children about extortion". Then I would go with them as they practiced. Of course I would go along and do my "trick or beer" routine. I could usually keep a cold one in my hand for the duration of the outing. (I live in a VERY friendly area.)
A treat definitely !! Now that our (only) son is 22 and has left home, my wife and I have lots of fun (that's MY treat) carving pumpkins and handing out HUGE bags of candies and fun toys. We don't get many kids anymore, probably a function of the age of the neighbourhood population, so the ones that do knock on our door find it worth their while.
Two more things :
1) Every kid who knocked on our door this year said "thank you" - not bad eh?
2) laz .... my wife would commit murder for a box of Mounds bars ... can't get 'em in Canada any more ... just tell me what it's gonna' cost me and a cheque will be in the mail
Neither. American 'Trick or Treat' has nothing to do with All Hallows Eve, nor with the equinox
Any kid who knocked the door here would be met with a blank face - we didn't even notice the date.
I like it...I LIKE IT!!!
I can't wait for Christmas Carroling to begin!!!
Ah Christmas Carollers... I LOVE them! I insist on hearing the entire carol, and if they only sing the first couple of lines they get nothing.