Ilford and 220, for film resurgence?

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I don't see a reason to use black inkjet. It's overkill for the purpose. A roller or spray nozzle setup would be less complex, cheaper, faster, and more reliable.
Maybe inkjet for numbering, etc., but I think a roller would be simpler and faster.

An existing inkjet printer line is less expensive, with the majority of tooling up, already amortized, and modifications to inks and ink delivery being the key modification needed, IMO.

Is there no already"ink jets" already spraying "skin tissue" for medical uses?

Taking it a step further, liquid emulsions could likewise to paper, polymers, etc, by using a standard compounded fluid(s).

It may be that someone here or someone they know could experiment using traditional Indian Inks of a density that an blackout ink or an emulsion would require plus 10% > greater density than required.

I believe the technology is in place and beside the modifications of existing machines, inks, etc, the next step would be to workout the settings and work load requirements.

Imagine using thin Yupo paper in an emulsion "ink" for making 'paper' negatives for medium and large format cameras, or applying platinum-palladium, or other emulsion/sensitizers to a quality Alpha Rag sheet or board, which you could print museum grade prints with!

Would Ilford etc al, be interested in that sort of market?

We need to try, those that can, until we have success, so our future is ensured for the time when such things might be the only material available to continue Analog Photography with, whether company compounded inks are made in small batches or we are able to compound our own emulations in our own spaces.

Think about it.
 
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As Eastman Kodak is a printing services business that has a small photographic film division, I expect that they were experimenting with every possible printing alternative when they were in the midst of their backing paper debacle.
But that doesn't ensure that they didn't try what you suggest.
 

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An existing inkjet printer line is less expensive, with the majority of tooling up, already amortized, and modifications to inks and ink delivery being the key modification needed, IMO.

Slooowww. And why wear out an expensive inkjet line doing something so simple?
 
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As Eastman Kodak is a printing services business that has a small photographic film division, I expect that they were experimenting with every possible printing alternative when they were in the midst of their backing paper debacle.
But that doesn't ensure that they didn't try what you suggest.

True, as I have nothing one way or another to say they did oe did no try this...
but they should, IMO.
 

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Profit doesn't come from running a slow process, wearing out precise machines, when a fast and simple process will do the job.
 
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Profit doesn't come from running a slow process, wearing out precise machines, when a fast and simple process will do the job.

Which fast and simple options already exist in proven technology, that'll allow photographic light sensitive b&w films and papers to be produced on demand in the photographers own home/darkroom?
 

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Which fast and simple options already exist in proven technology, that'll allow photographic light sensitive b&w films and papers to be produced on demand in the photographers own home/darkroom?

None that I know of. Given the amount of optimization required to make modern emulsions, I think it unlikely we'll have that option until molecular level fabrication hits the home market (another 50-100 years if we still have a planet to live on by then).
 

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Which fast and simple options already exist in proven technology, that'll allow photographic light sensitive b&w films and papers to be produced on demand in the photographers own home/darkroom?


The question below is the one I was responding to, not anything about coating films or papers:
Addressing the ink used for roll film paper backing, has anyone heard of attempts to modify inkjet jet printers to spray a denser black for backing and, for example, white or yellow ink for printing up numbering for whatever format you need on a run of paper backing?
 
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