I vicariously hate RC papers.

NB23 · Dec 20, 2011

Spent the day printing on 16x20 Oriental RC Glossy. Spent the day frustrated.

I can't look nor touch the prints. I hate them. Damn this RC stuff.

Each time I touched the paper I had this strong image in my head about kissing this old lady and passing my hands through her wig. Yeah, RC paper, just like plastic hair, can't be good

I have 75 sheets left of that horrible thing. What to do?

Steve Smith · Dec 20, 2011

Post it to me!

Steve.

dpurdy · Dec 20, 2011

It is good for making contacts of rolls. Cut it down to 8x10s. Especially glossy RC is ugly. The mat surface is a bit better.

MattKing · Dec 20, 2011

I like RC - but RC glossy requires very specific types of images.

This one comes across well:

tomalophicon · Dec 20, 2011

I really like RC glossy.
I was flipping through some matte surfaced RCs and a glossy jumped out from the middle and it looked outstanding!

dpurdy · Dec 20, 2011

Obviously it is a matter of taste rather than a matter of truth.

R.Gould · Dec 20, 2011

I also rather like RC paper. and use it more than FB, usualy matt but glossy sometimes,
Richaed

Rudeofus · Dec 20, 2011

The key seems to be horses for courses. I love glossy FB to death but there are certain subjects where Fomaspeed 312 is much better suited. If your subject and/or artistic style screams for glossy FB, don't waste a load of otherwise perfectly good RC paper on it. Mark the loss as "lesson learned" and toss the paper out only if you really can't think of a possible application for its appearance and tonality.

Steve Smith · Dec 20, 2011

R.Gould said:
I also rather like RC paper. and use it more than FB, usualy matt but glossy sometimes,
Richaed

Me too.

Steve.

edp · Dec 20, 2011

You don't "vicariously" hate RC paper. You personally hate it. The others on whose behalf you claim to hate it seem to like it.

2F/2F · Dec 20, 2011

NB23 said:
I have 75 sheets left of that horrible thing.

No, you have 300 sheets of 8x10 for making proof sheets.

Also, I think you mean vehemently, not "vicariously."

Simon R Galley · Dec 20, 2011

Dear NB23

As a maker of RC and FB papers, although the product in question is from a competitor....your metaphor of RC and the old lady in the wig, whilst amusing, translates more to you calling my kid ugly, it may be ugly....but it's still my kid.....!

Regards

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

tomalophicon · Dec 20, 2011

Ha ha.

Molli · Dec 20, 2011

Simon R Galley said:
Dear NB23

As a maker of RC and FB papers, although the product in question is from a competitor....your metaphor of RC and the old lady in the wig, whilst amusing, translates more to you calling my kid ugly, it may be ugly....but it's still my kid.....!

Regards

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

Dear Simon,

If you it will make you feel any better, I think your child is lovely

Molli · Dec 20, 2011

NB23 said:
I have 75 sheets left of that horrible thing. What to do?

I truly do believe you should donate the remainder to the world's most unworthy charity (that would be me). While I can't pay for the paper....nor the shipping.... I have an ample supply of gratitude to send your way

Simon R Galley · Dec 20, 2011

Thank you Molli......I will tell it you said so

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited

Molli · Dec 20, 2011

You're welcome, Simon. Please also feel free to tell it that Little Miss Undeserving here would dearly love to find it under her Christmas tree.

Your child will be in safe, albeit somewhat clumsy, hands. It will be taken good care of and dearly cherished as if it were my very own. In fact, I'm offering to adopt it. (I believe it's illegal to take money in exchange for one's child here in Australia... so please send it postage paid to "The 2nd Star on the Right, Never-Never Land, Victoria, Australia".)
Many thanks

MaximusM3 · Dec 20, 2011

2F/2F said:
No, you have 300 sheets of 8x10 for making proof sheets.

Also, I think you mean vehemently, not "vicariously."

I think he meant "viciously"

Steve Roberts · Dec 20, 2011

My formative photographic years were spent printing entirely on FB, washing for what seemed like aeons, faffing around with heated print dryers, trying to stop prints from curling and then struggling to get a half-decent glossy finish. Consequently, I have to take the view that current RC papers are, to say the least, rather good and have a lot going for them .........
Steve

Simon R Galley · Dec 20, 2011

Dear Molli,

Whilst I am sure it would be happy 'down under' ( who would'nt be ?) would'nt sending a loved one to Australia be a bit like history repeating itself.....?

I am absolutely sure I must already have lots of relatives in Australia........

I would consider a straight swop for Kylie though if you could arrange it......

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

IloveTLRs · Dec 20, 2011

I have a friend who only prints RC. I have another friend who says FB is the "real" way to print. It depends on who you ask

removed account4 · Dec 20, 2011

rc .. fb .. its all the same ( 6-of 1, half dz of the other )
i used to print hundreds of prints a week, maybe thousands a month on rc paper ..
you have to let go your preconceptions, and just print on it ...

if you don't want to print on it, make paper negatives with it
or lumen prints, or give it to someone who might use it.
i've never used oriental/seagull rc but if it is anything like their fb paper
it can't be that bad ...

simon, i like your paper too, its great stuff !

steven_e007 · Dec 20, 2011

I can vicariously hate it, now I've read the OPs description!

ChristopherCoy · Dec 20, 2011

Not knowing what FB paper is, and having no experience with it, I can't say that I like one more than the other. However, having recently opened a pack of RC matte paper that was included in an eBay lot, I can definitely say that I highly prefer the matte over the glossy that I have been using.

Molli · Dec 20, 2011

Simon R Galley said:
Dear Molli,

Whilst I am sure it would be happy 'down under' ( who wouldn't be ?) wouldn't sending a loved one to Australia be a bit like history repeating itself.....?

I am absolutely sure I must already have lots of relatives in Australia........

I would consider a straight swap for Kylie though if you could arrange it......

Simon ILFORD Photo / HARMAN technology Limited :

I have a Kylie Marks living a few doors down; will she do? I'm sure she's worth her weight in paper! I believe Miss Minogue might already be spoken for and, given how petite she is, I'm thinking I might not get much for her.

Alternatively, If I come across any of the Galley family over here, would they be worth much to you in a ransom situation?

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