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Make sure they see how much fun you're having with the film and then play the "Lets compare prints!" game where you set your traditional print down next to their ink jet print and exclaim "Wow, I didn't realize how GREAT this old techology really is!"CZeni said:
CZeni said:
And one of mine sold me a mint(apart from crumbling light seals,which I've ordered replacement material for)Mamiya C33 professional TLR with 105mm lenses,for about 10% of what a dealer would have charged me-and he's selling me his Meopta enlarger cheap too!
I hate it when friends go digital and then come to me for advice on how to use their digital cameras, because Im a photo geek. I mean, I shoot fully manual film cameras, what they got is a bloody tri-corder.
captainwookie said:
You said it, oh My Captain. My boss did that and I just kept dissin his digi toy and he finally stopped asking me
Me, do I look like Bill Gates?
captainwookie said:
I don't have friends that went digital.. oh wait: maybe I dont have friends.period..
BUT as a teacher at this high school, people throw things at me..
just got an Agfa Varioscope and a leitz Focomat V35 for free.
and a commercial photographer has promished his whole darkroom - 5 enlargers up to 13x18cm and paper, worth about 6.500$... (for free)
actually: I LOVE digital!
BUT as a teacher at this high school, people throw things at me..
just got an Agfa Varioscope and a leitz Focomat V35 for free.
and a commercial photographer has promished his whole darkroom - 5 enlargers up to 13x18cm and paper, worth about 6.500$... (for free)
actually: I LOVE digital!
jovo
Membership Council
My experience is a little different, but just as welcome. A good friend went from 4x5 to 8x10 and 8x20 cameras and now makes platinum prints so he gave me all his 4x5 filmholders. Cool!
CZeni said:
I wonder how many of them secretly regret the digital move? It's hard to say because human nature will tend to make anyone (including us film users) believe that the road chosen is the right way. The only difference between us and them is that we're right!
Someone "going digital" resulted in my bagging (there was a url link here which no longer exists)...
"Make sure they see how much fun you're having with the film and then play the "Lets compare prints!" game where you set your traditional print down next to their ink jet print and exclaim "Wow, I didn't realize how GREAT this old techology really is!"
Well lets come back to mother earth for a minute. Inkjet prints can be fantastic, particulary when compared to the crap you get from highstreet photoprocessing outlets. Inkjets bring top quality photo finnishing potential into your living room for not a lot of money. You will probably still get the best result from scanning film then making the inkjet, but digital capture can and will produce great results. The only way to better it for colour prints is to do traditional hand printing. And probably the only way to beat hand printing is a manipulated drum scan printed on colour photographic paper.
As usual it's horses for courses. And for the casual snapper who cares about his pictures, lets be honest digital is the way to go.
And let me point out once again, before the anti-digital mob go nuts, I use film 100%. So please feel free to send me some film.
Well lets come back to mother earth for a minute. Inkjet prints can be fantastic, particulary when compared to the crap you get from highstreet photoprocessing outlets. Inkjets bring top quality photo finnishing potential into your living room for not a lot of money. You will probably still get the best result from scanning film then making the inkjet, but digital capture can and will produce great results. The only way to better it for colour prints is to do traditional hand printing. And probably the only way to beat hand printing is a manipulated drum scan printed on colour photographic paper.
As usual it's horses for courses. And for the casual snapper who cares about his pictures, lets be honest digital is the way to go.
And let me point out once again, before the anti-digital mob go nuts, I use film 100%. So please feel free to send me some film.
I'm starting to see a trend with my casual digital snapper friends. They are hating the 'computer' part of the workflow. One even took his film camera instead of the digital on vacation. I was floored when he said it was easier to deal with!gareth harper said:
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"They are hating the 'computer' part of the workflow."
I can understand that. They can take the memory card direct to the processor, and even have them burn a disc for them if they want to avoid the PC altogether.
I did use to have a little joke for my digi friends. I'd tell them about a new small super high res memory device, they cost 99p each from the channel islands and can hold 36 images a throw.............................
They used to take the bate every time, some of them not catching on till I said it's called film.
I do also know some that while they hate the PC side of things they love being able to e-mail images.
One thing is for sure the digital revolution has increased interest in photography as a whole. Some of that interest works it's way through to film.
The communal darkrooms in Glasgow haven't been this busy for years.
I can understand that. They can take the memory card direct to the processor, and even have them burn a disc for them if they want to avoid the PC altogether.
I did use to have a little joke for my digi friends. I'd tell them about a new small super high res memory device, they cost 99p each from the channel islands and can hold 36 images a throw.............................
They used to take the bate every time, some of them not catching on till I said it's called film.
I do also know some that while they hate the PC side of things they love being able to e-mail images.
One thing is for sure the digital revolution has increased interest in photography as a whole. Some of that interest works it's way through to film.
The communal darkrooms in Glasgow haven't been this busy for years.
David A. Goldfarb
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Today's catch from a very busy NYC food photographer who went digital--8x10" Sinar P for $855. Looking at her credits, I'm sure it's paid for itself many times over. I picked the camera up from the studio and it looked like she was working with one of the newer Sinars and a scanning back on a massive studio stand.
Meanwhile, she had another 8x10" P and an 8x10" Norma that I think didn't get any bids. Look for seller bgstudio1 on eBay, if you're interested. I bet they get relisted, maybe at a lower price.
Meanwhile, she had another 8x10" P and an 8x10" Norma that I think didn't get any bids. Look for seller bgstudio1 on eBay, if you're interested. I bet they get relisted, maybe at a lower price.
David A. Goldfarb said:
I think that Sinar P cameras in good shape are tremendous values. There are tons of accessories available for them at reasonable (for photo gear!) prices, and they are a joy to use. I have an 8x10 Sinar P, and I love it. My first large format camera was a Sinar P 4x5. The geared asymmetric swings and tilts are terrific for a newbie. I sold mine under the delusion that I needed a lighter camera. Ten years later I learned my lesson and bought my current kit.
David A. Goldfarb
Moderator
Peter De Smidt said:
Absolutely!
After shooting 8x10" for some years with a Gowland PocketView, which is a great field camera, I realized that I take a fair number of photographs at home and don't really need an ultralight camera for that, and the conveniences of the asymmetric tilts and scales and calculators and levels (all of which needed adjustment) are kind of nice. I picked up a 4x5" Sinar F kit really cheap not long ago as a way of getting into the Sinar system, and have acquired a few accessories since, and I've just been waiting for the right 8x10" P to come along at the right price, and being able to pick it up in person was a real plus, saving the shipping charges and hassles.
We get tons of calls from people wanting to sell their darkroom equipment. I guess they figure we are a darkroom, so we must be buying... Well, what often happens is that we tell them that we are not in the market to buy anything and they just give the stuff to us because they don't know what to do with it. I am seriously considering working on this as a fundraising tool for us. We could end up being pretty big sellers on eBay!
Paul Sorensen said:
Paul:
At least give APUGers first crack at the stuff ...
Of course!David Brown said:Paul:
At least give APUGers first crack at the stuff ...
I did a search for that user name, but nothing came up.David A. Goldfarb said:
I'm just getting back into photography after 20 years away from it, so film is basically all I know. I have a cheap digi camera that I use to take pictures of stuff I need to display on various web sites I work on, but that's about it.
Search for completed items - they should then come up. They appear to have no active auctions at the moment.
You're lucky, my friends are switching back to film and either want to sell me their digital cams or try to buy my film cams
Friends don't let friends go digital.
I usually stop talking to them after they go digital.
I usually stop talking to them after they go digital.
Ara Ghajanian said:
You're such a sweetie. But I bet you would make an exception if your friend was a real hottie. In fact, it would give you all kinds of excuses to chat.
"I'll show you mine if you show me yours..."
"Come on over to my place and I'll show you the pleasures of the darkroom..."
"Want to see my contact sheets?"
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