With regard to people disregarding Kodachrome because it's a slide film (and thus not ideal for prints), that may have once been relevant. Today, for the everyday user, Kodachrome (and other E-6 chromes) is no longer impeded by this. Get the roll scanned where you drop off your K-14/E-6 rolls. The typical C-41 lab using a Noritsu machine can and does scan K-14/E-6 just fine for everyday purposes. Then you take that CD with all the scans, walk up to a Kodak kiosk to make your own prints, and let the system invert the image to a negative (or whatever it needs to do to ready for instant printmaking). People want convenience, and to be perfectly frank, it's also easier to look at a strip of chromes than negatives when the CD might not be handy. You also sell the value of longevity assured only by having a backup of film.
Chromes are not marketed and merchandised in this manner, even though the infrastructure to make prints like this -- the DIY kiosks -- is now remarkably common. This is an unintentional oversight, one not out of malice to chrome films.
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In any event, I've rambled on more than enough.
Kodachrome's utility has changed: not from common use to obsolescence, but from common use to boutique. Planned and managed accordingly, a boutique product can and does demonstrate financial viability. Profit may not be on a grand scale like one point in the past, but a profitable product is a profitable product.
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In the oeuvre of film products, Kodak would benefit to assume an agency of consultancy to facilitate small labs with the practical know-how to accommodate boutique processing of film like Kodachrome. Kodak's many expired patents may be open to all, but without past experience to achieve consistency in processing, the independent lab's knowledgebase is an impediment.
Enter Kodak's role as a paid consultant (think of IBM now) to advise and facilitate managing this obstacle. Kodak itself only provides its aggregated research knowledge and techniques for other parties who handle the rest on their own. In this sense, Kodak operates the way an open-source software company provides tailored support for customers who use their product: the raw knowledge/resource is openly available for anyone who wants to DIY it, but the know-how is a value-added service provided for a nominal fee to help overcome (or just skip) that steep learning curve. Knowledge here is the product. I don't know of Kodak using this business model.
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So like, there. It's a new way of doing old things, but those old things are still wanted by consumers, both old and -- if cards are played smartly -- new. Find a way to both promote and advocate for it while making money. As infrastructure improves, it also offers an avenue for renewed demand for a boutique master roll on a slightly more frequent basis. Kodak could even work with a third party interested in producing the complicated film elsewhere, using its consultancy role to facilitate that process, and thus unloading this manufacturing overhead to outside its walls.
Well, Acco, the ramble had some errors in it.
At the same time, Kodak did plan on making Kodachrome a boutique product supported by the minilab that they designed for the table top. It failed. Read the manuals to see how many rolls per day are needed to keep it functioning properly.
PE
At one master roll per year, weekly consumption would be about 500 rolls world wide. That is pretty low. But, the figures so far seem to support something like this being the case. Considering the underwhelming response to the survey, this is probably a reasonable figure. In fact, I'm beginning to suspect that Kodachrome is a loss leader in Kodak's product lineup that they are subsidizing from other profits. If that guess (and it is strictly a guess on my part) then the existance of Kodachrome is even more tenuous that we can imagine.
If we cannot get the 20,000+ APUG members to rally to any greater extent to this, then it is a lost cause!
PE
I agree with this -- the numbers tell their own story.
If APUG members want to take a roll in reviving Kodachrome, or at least publicizing it, I think we should start here. Start with a target market of film enthusiasts.
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Nonetheless, inspired by this thread, I just ordered 6 rolls from B&H.
-Laura
Well, Acco, the ramble had some errors in it.
Kodak did not close plants that were fully functional. Rather, declining sales of film caused functioning plants to stand idle. Those that tried to remain operational began to see a fall in quality due to the severe control problems they ran into. At the same time, Kodak did plan on making Kodachrome a boutique product supported by the minilab that they designed for the table top. It failed. Read the manuals to see how many rolls per day are needed to keep it functioning properly.
So, even by trying to do what you suggest, Kodak found it failed just as overall film sales are failing today in every product line. Kodak is not closing independant plants that do E6 or C41, but they are going out of business nevertheless. It is the same story. No business, no plant!
PE
Go here: (there was a url link here which no longer exists)
Just because I can see the future and am going to eventually adopt Digital doesn't mean that I still can't use analog methods. Up until this point in time analog (Kodachome with Leica M and Nikon SLR for me) have proved superior to Digital. But that is going to rapidly change. When film is no longer manufactured or commercially viable, I will be ready.
What are you going to do for the future?-Dick
Good morning;
When I started really using a camera, the two standard "best" films for images were KM-25 and FX-32; Kodachrome-25 and Panatomic-X-32. That was what we used for testing, for calibrating, for determining accuracy. Now both of them are gone.
The local cost of sending away a roll for processing is approx. $13 including taxes, so for me it isn't practical to shoot all my colour on K-64, but once in a while it's a nice change
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