How long will Velvia 50 last in the fridge?

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  1. sdivot

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    For all you film experts out there.
    I have some Velvia 50 in my fridge that expired around the latter part of 2005. I don't shoot much color!
    I am taking a trip to Vegas next week for poker tourneys, and plan to shoot at Red Rock Canyon and maybe the Neon Boneyard.
    Question: Should I get new film just to be sure (it's a long trip), or is my film still ok? What about Ilford Pan F?
    Thanks,
    Steve
     
  2. Velvia 50 is obviously made by Fuji, but the chemistry is not all that different from Kodak. I have been told that frozen Kodak film can be used at least up to 10 years.

    Steve
     
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    Depends on how long your refrigerator lasts? Grin.

    The Pan F should be fine, just as your seldom used Velvia on ice.

    To be safe, shoot a test roll and process it before you leave on the trip. I'm sure you can buy fresh Velvia in Vegas.
     
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    Thanks for the replies. But just to be clear,the Velvia is not frozen, just refrigerated. I was told recently that it will last a long time frozen, but refrigerated does not make much difference in the life of film.
    True? False?
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    The velvia is probably all right, but test a roll first- shoot a variety of brightness ranges and colors, including a white, a black and a gray card to check for color shifts and fog; also daylight, tungsten and flash.

    For future reference, store film in the freezer, especially color. Keep only a few rolls in the fridge, what you expect to use in a shorter time frame. Let the refrigerated stuff come to room temperature for an hour or two before opening- the film is packed in zero humidity air so as to avoid condensation.

    I have frozen C-41 film that is twenty years old, perfectly usable. I made a very large purchase of an emulsion I liked, and froze it the day I bought it in 1987. I just have to pull it out a day in advance of using it. They no longer manufacture that particular emulsion, I might add.

    You might find this interesting:
    I have some 120 FP4+ and HP5+ that expired in 1994, stored on my library shelf (eh, I goofed up); I expose it at 1/2 ISO (i.e., ISO 125 FP4+ at ISO64), add 0.3ml of a 1% benzotriazole in isopropyl alcohol solution per 16oz D-76 1:1, and process for 1.3x normal- they look great, print at my normal exposure and grade- can't tell it from fresh film. The emulsions are somewhat fragile though, so I have to treat them very gently while wet, but once they dry, they are fine.

    I use a non-hardening fix, but maybe I should harden in the stop, might solve any fragility problems.
     
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    I just used up 2 boxes of Velvia that had been in thr fridge (not frozen) since 1998. So long as the packaging is sealed I think you will be ok.

    Doyle