Foma, Ilford and Kodak resources

Discussion in 'B&W: Film, Paper, Chemistry' started by michael_r, Jan 18, 2013.

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    Great source of references. Thanx.
     
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    Thanks! I just realized that this was posted.

    I've also just recently realized the value of "going back to the source" for information.
     
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    I was going to start a new thread for Foma resources, but I'll add them here.

    Fomapan films data sheets are here:
    100 http://www.foma.cz/en/fomapan-100
    200 http://www.foma.cz/en/fomapan-200
    400 http://www.foma.cz/en/fomapan-400

    Retropan 320 Soft: http://www.foma.cz/ew/ec816f17-da8b-49ce-bd89-1d75aa19fee6-en

    Fomapan R-100: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomapan-R-100
    Processing set for the above: http://www.foma.cz/ew/827b9876-a861-4748-84d6-40a5c306f378-en

    Photographic Emulsion: http://www.foma.cz/en/foto-emulze

    Foma Chemicals are here: http://www.foma.cz/en/catalogue-chemicals-271

    Film developers data sheet: http://www.foma.cz/en/film
    Paper developers: http://www.foma.cz/en/paper
    Fixers: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomafix
    Fomacitro: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomacitro
    Fomatoner Indigo: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomatone-indigo
    Fomatoner Sepia:http://www.foma.cz/en/fomatone-sepia

    Foma Papers can be accessed here: http://www.foma.cz/en/catalogue-papers-120

    Fomabrom: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomabrom
    Fomabrom Variant III: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomabrom-variant-III
    Fomalux 111: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomalux-111
    Fomaspeed: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomaspeed
    Fomaspeed Variant III: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomaspeed-variant-III
    Fomatone MG: http://www.foma.cz/en/fomatone-MG

    Product Catalogue: http://www.foma.cz/ew/92cad2bd-ec2b-4442-bc3c-b13be9ea63ff-en
    To note that the Product Catalogue has practical data, tips and extra data not present in the main data sheets such as capacity and storage life of chemicals.

    PDF for some foreign films developing times in Foma developers: http://www.foma.cz/ew/33a06207-643b-4282-94ff-2c1953493fcd-en
     
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    I'll be asking a moderator to change the title of this thread to reflect new content.
     
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    Ricardo, would you mind starting a new thread for the Foma stuff? They appear to be tech sheets. The original intent with this thread was essentially to group some relatively generalized "how to" links having to do with the photographic process.
     
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    Sorry, a nice moderator already changed the title.
    But I see your point.
     
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    One stop shopping is good for me. Please make this thread a sticky thread.
     
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    Does anyone have copies of Kodak's resources? The link do not work anymore
     
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    I wonder has Kodak re-moved the information, the page comes back as not found but with a background relating to Kodak.
     
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    Some of the Kodak resources have been re-edited by Kodak Alaris, and a number of the documents can now be found under the "Photographers" or "Labs" links near the top of this page: http://imaging.kodakalaris.com/professional-photographers/labs/techenvironment
    The organization of the resources is very different. In some cases, clicking on a link (like "Chemistry" under "Labs") will yield a page with more links.
    In some cases - like the CIS documents - there is just a listing. Presumably one has to contact Kodak Alaris to get them. In other cases - like the Z manuals - the links go directly to pdfs.
    Where the documents have new dates, it is because they have been edited by Kodak Alaris to:
    1) refer only to current products and;
    2) refer to Kodak Alaris instead of Eastman Kodak.
    There are no documents on Kodak Alaris' site for discontinued products.
    I have found two good sources for historical versions of Kodak documents:
    1) Tim Gray's excellent site 125px.com: http://125px.com/
    Look under the Kodak technical documents link found under the Tech docs tab.
    2) the site of Norwegian photographer Erik Hattrem: tmax100.com (which re-directs). There is a link in faint text at the bottom left of his home page to "My resource bank" which takes you to http://www.tmax100.com/photo/ where you will find links to copies of a significant numbers of Kodak and other technical and other publications.
    There are also remnants of resources still out there. Kodak's web presence was historically very complex, with separate domains for the various different international subsidiaries of Eastman Kodak. As a result, when someone like me, based in Canada, searched for something on the Eastman Kodak site, I would frequently obtain results that were actually specific to the Kodak Canada operation. Some of those international domains appear to still be at least partially available. A google search on a Kodak item may reveal an invalid link on the Eastman Kodak domain, as well as a still working link on the kodak.ca domain (which is otherwise not relevant). I'll see if I can find an example, and ad it to this post.
    If there is a datasheet you have relied upon in the past, I would suggest downloading it.
    EDIT: Okay, I have found an example of one of those remnants - an information page (not a data sheet) for the now discontinued T-Max 3200: http://wwwca.kodak.com/global/en/professional/support/techPubs/f32/f32d.jhtml
     
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    I think that it is tine for APUG to set up a section of web pages with copies of every film and developer documentation while we can still capture them. It should be a sticky thread.
     
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    They aren't broken - they are actually disabled.
    Eastman Kodak is no longer involved in any of that end of the business, other than to do contract manufacturing of some products for Kodak Alaris, so they no longer provide any support.
    Those old Kodak Canada links may hang around for a long time, or may disappear tomorrow. The fact that they still work is probably an oversight.
    EDIT: in the interest of clarity, Kodak Canada is also entirely out of that end of the business. All the Kodak international subsidiaries that weren't closed down are equally out of that end of the business. Only Kodak Alaris remains in that business.
    The historical remnants that remain attached to the Kodak Canada site may be still around because one of the most important assets of the "new" Eastman Kodak is Creo - the Canadian commercial printing technology company that is part of the core of Eastman Kodak's current business.
     
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    This is all rather annoying as I make an effort to point newcomers to this sticky.

    I'd insert a tearing-hair-out emoji at this point but unfortunately I have none.
    (hair, not emojis)
     
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    At the risk of sounding like a pedant, they go to a 404 "page not found" error. Disabled or not, they're still broken links by definition. ;-)

    True. So if they're of interest, grab them now before they're gone. As I mentioned above, just add "caen" after www in the urls in post #1 to get a working link.
     
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    Depends on which Kodak links you use.
    I have a whole library of bookmarked Kodak links that now go to a page that looks like this:

    Kodak.JPG

    Whether they are broken, or disabled, or removed - they certainly aren't much use.
     
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    Wow, this truly goes from bad to worse. Finding the Ilford Pub on reversal processing has been "hell's own job" tonight involving the Wayback Machine which was new to me. Any attempt to get to that Ilford pub by any other way results in the same 404 Error applicable to Kodak. It remains to be seen how far Pemberstone is willing and able to restore such pubs. Now the links to Kodak's pubs are permanently disabled and while there are links via Kodak Alaris for some stuff, user friendly, quick and convenient are not adjectives that spring to mind.

    I hope that maybe APUG can set up something of a permanent resource. We may be the only willing party left. Analogue photography has just got a lot harder in the last few weeks.

    pentaxuser
     
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    As I posted above, try and edit your links to add "Caen" after "www" in the link address and they may work (so they read weecaen. Instead of www.). All the Kodak links in post N°1 work if you make this change.

    For now.

    EDIT: if a mod can edit the www.kodak links in post 1 as above, the Kodak links will work.
     
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    Thanks, silveror0. Just a pity that we the consumers need to do the work via the Wayback Machine. It is rather giving Ford money for one of its cars and then having to fit the wheels ourselves :D

    pentaxuser
     
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    Ford didn't go into bankruptcy.
    Unfortunately most, but not all of the links on the page silver0 referenced are still valid.
    The internet is wonderfully flexible - far more flexible than three ring binders filled with pages of information - but that means that an internet resource is also vulnerable.
     
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