THIS IS SO COOL!!!!!! Imagine if you will me and 26 12 year olds standing around the printing frame watching the paper go from orange to purple then red and finally it seemed to stop at a deep rust, in the border area. Even my hardened gangbangers were impressed. The print is in the wash now and the kids are gone but I have questions. Because I toned with selenium I knew I would have to expose the hell out of it because of the bleaching in the fix. The print was way dark. Like no detail in the shadows at all and the highlights were very detailed. It bleached to almost nothing in the fix. The selenium at 20 minutes brought it part way back but no where near the start point. Was five minutes in the fix , clayton's oderless fixer, mixed 1:7 too strong? How do I know when the print is dark enough before fixing, is this one of those trial and error things? A small orange circle remains in the print like it is untoned. What causes this to happen? I have always selenium toned my prints and never had this happen. I did not get the gold toner in yet so I used selenium and toned after fixing as per cjarvis's instructions.