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    Thanks for the link. Reminds me that I owe him a write-up on the plates.
     
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    Who’s “him”? I looked at those articles earlier today and started poking around the site to see who actually runs it, and couldn’t find anything. I have a couple ideas for some write-ups but I’d like to know who I’m writing for first.
     
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    “Him” is EM, who runs the site, and which is what he signs his emails with. Beyond that..apparently he prefers anonymity.
     
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    happy reading ( and writing ! )
    im not sure who EM is to be honest
    his/her identity is guarded well .. :smile:

    he/she has a great website though !
     
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    I really enjoy both of the blogs John mentioned. Thinking about writing an article for them in the near future.
     
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    Dubblefilm is a new one on me. Where is this sold?

    Thanks

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    The list contains Dubblefilm but is lacking Revolog.
     
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    My issue with the articles: While the number of available film products may be close to 200, the actual number of film stocks is significantly less. Take out everything from the list that is a repackaged version or "specially modified" (as in 'we scratched up this film and rolled it back up' types) and you would probably find that the number is half or less. Only 6 out of the 12 brands in the first 3 articles manufacture - the rest are repackaged something-or-other. The author and his/her collaborator have their rose colored glass on with respect to the state of film photography. Yes, we have many different emulsions or film stocks to choose from right now, but to say that they number in the hundreds, I believe is misleading.
     
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    They're not done yet. It's a multi-part alphabetical list.
     
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    not so sure the glasses are rose colored, unless it was ortho film stock, probaby dark green.

    why d'zit matter repackaged or not, they're out there, which is good.
    repackaging film ( and paper ) has been done
    for decades and will continue...
     
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    Well, if a Fuji film is discontinued, and it cascades through a couple of dozen rebrands, it does affect overall availability.

    It would be helpful if they also aggregated film by source, so we we could easily see how many different emulsions are out there.
     
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    It doesn't so much matter that film has been repackaged, but I don't believe it is correct to call it a different film.
     
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    if its aged or stored/treated in a different way, it is a different film.
    forte used to make j+c film as well as bregger back in the day
    if you shot each of the films side by side they were different, but they
    ( by all accounts by people much smarter than me ) were the same emuls¡on...
    and by all accounts made with love.
     
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    If I freeze my Tri-X and you don't, it's the same film.
     
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    my take might not be the same as yours, but if it reacts to the light differently, looks differently, processes differentlythan it did when you i bought it fresh
    then it acts like a different film, whether technically it is the same film or not ...
     
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    WTF!?! A positive thread about film! OMG I am getting dizzy! :blink:
     
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    The point is Arista film is Foma film whether you freeze it or not. You can't count films which may or may not have stored properly as different films. Emulsive says there are 200 different films. There aren't. A substantial number are rebranded. Saying there are 200 films paints a more optimistic picture than may be warranted, leading to complacency.
     
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    im just the messenger .. if you have questions about what EM decided was a film why not go to their website and send webmaster a question.
    i think it is great there are so many different brands, names, styles emulsions no matter if it is a similar brand or not..
     
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    At the end of the film description is a line verified manufacturer.
     
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    ....But it is not accurate. For example, Dubbelfilm is not manufactured by them, they just reanimate it with some device and roll it back up but the Verified Manufacturer field says Dubbelfilm.
     
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    At the Dubblefilm one I looked at it says Kodak.
    But when a firm manipulates a film made by another by more than twisting, the primary manufacturer does not count any longer anyway
     
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    Ah, I must have been looking at something else.
     
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    yeah, as mentioned, not real accurate. There's maybe half a dozen actual manufacturers who manufacture at any useful scale. The rest are just rebranders.
     
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    1) I just bought Bergger Pancro 400 from Freestyle. Have not shot it. I rely mostly on HP5 when not shooting digital. I stand process 1+100 because I like what that methodology does with all sorts of film... I always/only Nikonscan plus NIK Silverefex and print Canon Pro-10.

    2) What about Cinestill? It's apparently got unique spins on both C41 color and DOUBLE ECKS :smile: Dead Link Removed
     
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