CMG Worldwide lawsuit. Effect on copyrights.

Discussion in 'Ethics and Philosophy' started by Rlibersky, Jul 20, 2005.

  1. Rlibersky

    Rlibersky Subscriber

    Apr 6, 2005
    St Paul MN
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    I was reading in "Inked Magazine Issue 2" that CGM Worldwide is suing One West Publishing. They are suing for the to take away certain right of photographers after a person has died. (This is a poor description of the lawsuit.)

    In the end it looks like photographers will lose the right to use pictures, that they have a release for, after the death of the person.

    Sorry, I searched a few sites for this story on the web but didn't have time to do a good search.

    It would seem if this suit goes against the copyright holder it could effect allot of photographers and how they write contracts in the future.
  2. OP

    Rlibersky Subscriber

    Apr 6, 2005
    St Paul MN
    8x10 Format
    I did some more research today but could only find reports that I had to pay for

    "New Filing – Marilyn Monroe
    Shirley de Dienes v. Marilyn Monroe LLC, CMG Worldwide. Heir of photographer says late starlet’s rights holders do not own her posthumous publicity rights because, as a New York resident, she didn’t leave any behind. New Filing CD California. Full Story"

    Does anyone have more information? Or does nobody care? I for one would like to keep the rights to my negatives, or my family after I'm dead.
  3. juan

    juan Subscriber

    May 7, 2003
    St. Simons I
    Multi Format
    I can't find anything either. However, looking at who CGM represents, I would guess that this has something to do with the old copyright law. It was changed in the US in 1976 to give the photographer rights for life plus 50 years. Under the old law, copyrights were good for 28-years, then could be renewed for an additional 28-years. It looks as though CMG represents folks, such as Marilyn Monroe, who would have fallen under the old law. There have been a lot of lawsuits, Disney being one plaintiff, seeking creative ways to keep control of images (Mickey Mouse) long after the original copyright expired.
  4. jjstafford

    jjstafford Inactive

    Feb 11, 2004
    Minnesota Tr
    Multi Format
    One West and the estate of the photographer, Andre de Dienes (deceased in 1985) filed a claim in Federal Court against CMG and two other parties for copyright infringement, unfair competitive practices and tortous interference.

    de Dienes did photographs of Marilyn Monroe and CMG has the Baker family and Estate contract for her brand, copyright.

    There are no judgements onfile yet because the case is in process. But here's a tiny bit of background.

    de Dienes was the first photographer to phototograph Norma Jeane (Baker). Dougherty. They took a month-long road trip shortly after WWII and he made pictures along the way.

    CMG is clever with their statements to the popular press and commingles the term "copyright" with "trademark" (branding). CMG has a lot of money, and Marilyn Monroe's brand has the highest acccumulated profit for a deceased star of the USA.

    Previous cases concerning the photographer's representation since he died: Shirley de Dienes, along with about a dozen other photographers carried out a similar suit in 1999 against Rizzoli International Publications for their book of Marilyn Monroe with claims of both copyright and trademark infringements of photographs of Monroe.

    The outcome was mixed. Rizzoli had an office in in Italy and was printed from that office, but was part of Rizzoli Internation, New York, which created a complex situation which ultimately benefited Rizzoli. (Certain complications of international copyrights take cases out of certain courts' consideration.)

    So, this ain't the inside scoop, but it's what is at my fingertips at Westlaw.
  5. Roger Krueger

    Roger Krueger Member

    Jan 20, 2004
    San Diego, C
    Med. Format RF
    Can the people who've read about this in Inked or EntLaw give us some more info? (neither source is available free and nothing useful shows up on Google).

    jjstafford's post indicate this is a copyright case, Rlibersky's quote says it's a right-of-publicity case--well folks, which is it? These are entirely different bodies of law
  6. jjstafford

    jjstafford Inactive

    Feb 11, 2004
    Minnesota Tr
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    My mention of a copyright claim (first paragraph) came from the New York Times. It may not be accurate. We would have to see the actual filed case. I haven't seen that one yet.
  7. DavidS

    DavidS <div class="smallfont"><strong><em><font color="44

    Jan 7, 2005
    New York Cit
    re: CMG

    On the face of it, it might look like this is a simple
    fight over who can charge fees for the rights to photographs
    of celebrities—the photographer, or the estates
    of the subject? Along with millions of dollars
    this involves the right to reproduce a name, likeness,
    or other recognizable aspects of one’s persona. It
    also might change the laws of publicity rights, the
    legality of prior contracts, the privileges and ownership
    of intellectual property rights, the rights of heirs,
    the control of the images of deceased celebrities
    and the way this photographic art can be displayed,
    portrayed and marketed.
    Inked talked with people on both sides of the issue.
    Filing one federal lawsuit is CMG Worldwide, the company
    that holds the rights to the estate of Marilyn
    Monroe. CMG Worldwide defines itself the premier
    company for representing the intellectual property
    and control of a famous person’s likeness for families
    and estates of (over 400) deceased celebrities.
    Countering are suits by the estates of various photographers
    in order to protect their artistic property.
    Dismayed and disconcerted about this lawsuit and
    its consequences is Chuck Murphy of One West Publishing
    which specializes in Fine Art Limited Edition
    photographic prints. They are the exclusive authorized
    agent for Shirley de Dienes and the estate of
    Andre de Dienes, as well as represent other renowned
    photographers. Part of their catalog includes
    “Marilyn” by Andre de Dienes. It’s a collection of
    photographs taken by Andre de Dienes, of a young,
    aspiring model he met one day in 1945 named
    Norma Jean ( Baker) Dougherty, a.k.a, Marilyn Monroe.
    We bring this up because both sides have are
    arguing about who owns the image of MM.
    The lawsuit has only recently been filed. We may
    not know the outcome for years. But it has sent a
    chill through parts of the publishing, gallery and
    collector’s arenas, who claim that an unfavorable
    outcome could not only stifle their respective growth,
    but deprive artists of their intellectual property and
    change the face of an industry.
    Written By Jeff Dondero
    Inked Magazine Editor in Chief
    First up was Chuck Murphy.
    Why was this lawsuit filed in federal court?
    “The laws governing the laws of publicity are on a
    state to state basis. Twenty five states recognize
    rights of publicity after you die. Only a few recognize
    successive rights and the rest don’t recognize
    any rights of publicity at all. CMG has been asserting
    their exclusive rights to the images of Marilyn
    Monroe worldwide for over 10 years. Although she
    died in California, she was a resident of New York
    State whose law states that when a resident dies so
    does the right to their image. California recognizes
    right to laws of publicity for 70 years after your
    death. However, they also recognize the laws of the
    state of each resident. CMG has lobbied so aggressively
    in their home state of Indiana that they have
    the most liberal rights of publicity in the country.
    There is no other state in the union that has these
    kinds of laws. Consequently, CGM has been generating
    these lawsuits in Indiana. Now they want to
    change the right to publicity on a national level.”
    How dramatic would these changes be?
    “It basically changes present copyright law for the
    country indefinitely. It could make legal contracts
    null and void that were entered into in good faith 50
    years before. For example, it could void the agreements
    between de Dienes and Marilyn Monroe and
    compromise any rights of de Dienes heirs when
    they publish his copyrighted photographs. So they
    not only want to change how things will be in the
    future, but how things have been done for 50 years.
    How aggressive is CMG with this lawsuit?
    “They are trying to assert a right of publicity with
    Marilyn Monroe that New York law states they don’t
    have as of today. If they are successful they will be
    able to do this with all of the ‘estate’ they represent.
    “CMG is even going after a documentary film titled
    Marilyn’s Man, about her first husband, Jim
    Dougherty. They are suing the Shaw Family Archives,
    a photographer, Jim Dougherty, her ex-husband, and
    Bradford Exchange, the licensing company behind
    the film. They have no right of publicity to Marilyn
    What does this mean to the photographer?
    “What they are trying to change will affect photographers
    like Andre de Dienes, Sam Shaw, Milton Greene
    (all photographers who shot of Marilyn Monroe) and
    their heirs. By the way, it was Andre de Dienes’s
    photos that got her the first screen test with RKO. It
    will effect any other photographer who takes a picture
    of someone who might be famous some day.
    For CMG it means that every image out there—including
    those in public domain, they will exercise
    the right of publicity and charge a fee. Most of the
    time CMG will ask for a fee higher than the copyright
    holder and they want all of there money in advance.
    In effect they are trying to change the law and how it
    works retroactively. They attempting to make the
    right of publicity more important than the copyright
    it self.
    Why should de Dienes heirs have the right
    to his images, his business?
    When a man works all his life to build a business
    model, let say in the case of Andre de Dienes, he
    pays his models, he has signed model releases,
    he licenses his images for 50 years making a
    living. Then he die and passes his business on to
    his heirs, his heirs should have a right to continue
    with the business model with out any problem
    from anyone based on the law. His business
    should be handed down to his heirs like any other
    business. But CGM claims that all images, no
    matter who took them, no matter if they were
    agreed to, paid for or how legally they were
    produced at the time, they have a right to a fee
    based on the right of publicity. Marilyn Monroe was
    very happy with the work Andre de Dienes was
    doing and never had a problem with his licensing
    when she was living.
    Has it effected OneWest Publishing’s business?
    I’m the publisher of Fine Art Limited Editions and I
    have an exclusive right to the de Dienes work. Back
    in 2002 Taschen published a book called Marilyn
    by Andre de Dienes that was not infringing on
    anyone’s rights. CGM issued a cease and desist
    asserting right of publicity with Marilyn Monroe. New
    York has no right of publicity independent of its right
    of privacy statute. The right of privacy, under the
    Civil Rights laws of New York, terminate upon death,
    thereby also terminating the right of publicity.
    Can this effect photo galleries and collectors?
    If this law is passed any situation where the celebrity
    is dead, a company like CMG will have the rights
    to charge a fee for the image of the celebrity. That
    fee could well be larger than the money made by a
    company publishing a limited edition or by the Estate
    of the photographer. This will effect merchandising,
    publishing, it’s crazy what it will do.”