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I have begun building my darkroom(s). The first will be for colour, separated from the a B&W darkroom by a pocket door. Initially the pocket door will be the exterior door for the colour side.

What your looking at in the first image is the interior from the corner opposite the door. The second image is from the outside near the paper processor. All hopefully will come clearer in time.

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Looks like you have a fair amount of room.

I've been adding a small bathroom to our home. Since the bathroom will be very small I decided to go with a pocket door to conserve space. That got me thinking about pocket doors for darkrooms. Seems to me they would be much easier than conventional doors to seal light tight. Some extra trim all around would do the trick.

Did you choose a pocket door for this reason, or for space considerations?
 

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Now that is a large darkroom. You need a bike to get around. :smile: How much space is there?
 

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Great space. Will the bicycle be the emergency power generator? :wink:
 

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mark said:
Now that is a large darkroom. You need a bike to get around. :smile: How much space is there?

Good one, Mark, I was thinking the same thing when I saw the photo.
 
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Matt,
Pocket doors are easy to create light traps for, plus it will be left open most of the time when the B&W side is complete.

It is a pretty good sized space 15x12 for the colour side, but the bike might be over kill.

I'll post more pictures nextweekend. The walls should be done by then and the wiring and plumbing will start.
 

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Where did you get the bike? It's just like the Chinese bike I bought in Borneo last year when I needed some cheap transportation on the weekends. Cost me $40 new. I had the choice of an 18-speed "mens" bike or a 1-speed "ladies" bike. I got a lot of ribbing from the locals.
Anyway, that is one big business-like darkroom. I would get lost. I can hardly find my film in the dark as it is.
 

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Where did you get the bike? It's just like the Chinese bike I bought in Borneo last year when I needed some cheap transportation on the weekends. Cost me $40 new. I had the choice of an 18-speed "mens" bike or a 1-speed "ladies" bike. I got a lot of ribbing from the locals.
Anyway, that is one big business-like darkroom. I would get lost. I can hardly find my film in the dark as it is.
The bike is my neighbor's and it is a '60s vintage shwinn.
 
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A non pictorial update:
The walls, electrical, and plumbing are in.
The walls were a small pain. Ceiling height was less than standard the floor grossly uneven. This required all the sheet rock to be cut and to be cut at an angle to maintain a 'nice' butt edge. The existing walls were of course not straight or smooth either, which in the instance of the cinderblock exterior wall will make for a less than elegant light sealing trim. In hindsight and for the most part the walls were not a big deal.

Plumbing was a larger pain. The house has a mix of copper and galvanized pipe. I was able to tap into the cold prior to the galvanized. The feed pipe into the hot water heater is galvanized and the out is copper which re connects to galvanized. If you have ever had to deal with galvanized you know that it does not like to be disturbed, especially at or near a mixed metal joint and if the galvanized is old. This was my situation. After tapping into the hot a downstream joint began to drip. Horrifying thoughts of repiping the better part of the basement swam through my head. The joint was an old (as in 1920) compression fitting that showed signs of corrosion. I added support to the pipe to relieve pressure from the joint and it stopped leaking.

Meanwhile, the cold entered one side of the darkroom the hot on the opposite side. The wall that they both entered is not straight in any direction. I was able to join them up to the first of two water panels, but the appearance of the copper moving toward and away from and spanning the entire wall is less than attractive.

I still have the other water panel to set up which will require the hot water to cris-cross the cold -- pretty ugly.

The drainage was no problem and silver recovery will be a breeze. All my equipement has seperate discharges.

Electrical, turned out not to be an issue, thanks in large part to the advice received from apuggers on a separate thread.

So the 1st water panel (wing lynch electronically controlled WP) is hooked up; the film processor (wing-lynch 4e) and the paper processor (Hope ind. 26") are online. The enlarger and drop table are in pieces scattered in boxes and by their lonesome throughout the darkroom.

The enlarger I have is a Durst L1200 on a really nice and heavy drop table. The drop table weighs slightly more than my car and is a joy to move. The combination of the enlarger and table require a minimum ceiling height of 91”. Between the floor joices (sp) of all the areas for my darkroom there is about a 5’ area where the darkroom floor to the next floor subflooring is just over 91”. I cut a whole in the ceiling in a couple places until I found an unobstructed area which meets my height requirements and move the table in place.

The head on the L1200 is spring loaded. This makes raising and lowering the very heavy head easy. It also makes the head unmanageable in anything other than vertical.

After positioning the table and boxing in an area between the joices (sp) I attempt to put the enlarger on the table. This sucker is pretty heavy. I ‘lock’ the head toward the bottom of the column so that it will be easier to manage. I get the enlarger just shy of the base and decide to reposition my hands so I can raise it the next couple inches. To do this I need to tilt the enlarger about 20 degrees off of vertical. The head comes loose and flies toward the top of the column, which is where my right hand is. Just as the head reaches terminal velocity it also meets my hand and my hand meets the block at the top of the column.

So here I am, enlarger griping my hand about 3' off of a poured cement floor. Blood is pouring out from under the nail on my index finger. I need to right the enlarger, lower it to the ground so I can lower the head. I do this. Most of the blood is on the floor and table so clean-up is a snap.

I decide to leave the enlarger and work on something else.

I start up the wing lynches. The water panel can't control the temperature. B&W is no issue, colour zooms to 130F. These things beep when they fall out of temperature and of course its beeping incessantly. The film processor won't fill with water, and it won't pump bleach -- Fix and dev are fine. The solenoids for bleach and the water inlet are gone. During the diagnostics and testing the WP is beeping its fool brain off -- real calming.

After a long search and loads of phone calls I am forced to order the water inlet solenoid from my local WL dist. I get a huge discount only 126.00 normally [if you can call this normal] it is 190.00. The bleach solenoid I have in inventory.

Whilst I wait for the WL bits I have moved onto the Hope.
Why fix the WP when it is providing such pleasant background noise?

More on this later.
 
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Good Lord, it seems you may have forgotten the most important part of all when doing construction work. Aside from language (which is certainly too clean and pure for a decent job site and skillful communication), there is no mention of the beer necessary to complete this project. I fear you may have erred greatly in this endeavor.

Please stop immediately and consume at least 2 cases before beginning again. This is what went wrong! tim

P.S. "Joist" is correct. Too many @*#%$ years swinging a *&^%$!#* hammer.
 

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Maybe it's a difference in UK/US terminology but what is a 'pocket door'?
 
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A pocket door is a sliding door that is fitted inside the wall in a pocket.

Many fine pale ales and more than a couple bottles of cheap Aussie reds have died, brutally -- never really standing a chance -- during the construction of this thing. Oddly so have many cups of Earl Grey and Lady Grey. What has my wife done to me?

I have also built a language all my own. I can speak with a vocabulary of about ten words, 3 or four articles and the rest are used interchangeably as verbs, adjectives, nouns and adverbs. As in: D*** f***ing m****f***ing m****f***er in the f***ing m****f***ing f***.

As an update. I put the second water panel up. I originally needed it over the sink (also me made) for tempering, but may need it to cover for the wing lynch water panel until I fix it. I also needed it done now so I can finish the Hope.

I now have possibly the ugliest network of copper piping you are likely to ever see.

This water panel is a Delta model 80. It is used. I believe the prior owner had all the grace of an Ork. The valves and compression fittings were all abused. This made it a bit of pain to get it leak free and operational. The temp dial sticks and the cold water filter drips, but it will be ok.

Today I will finish cleaning out the Hope and try to fix a jumping gear set in the 3rd wash rack. I have been ruining dev cleaner, water and cleanout sheets through it for the past couple days. The strange thing about this processor is that there is no manual drains for the dev and bleach tanks (or at least none I can find in the manual or on the chasse) and the there is no way to set the replenishment to run continuously. Both items would be helpful for cleaning.
 

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Pocket doors were invented to push a repair man (or woman) into a lasting state of depression. The best friend of a pocket door is the ignorant picture hanger. Since there is nothing in the wall behind the sheetrock except the frame and door, a large nail to hang a picture is the perfect addition to free motion. If it doesn't pierce the door and skewer it in place, it can certainly scratch the $hit out of one side of the door as it opens across the nail. A double picture (one on each side with 2" nails) is even better.

Hint: For track repairs, use a series of long drill bit extensions (12" sections of the Irwin "Speedbor" bit extenders) on an electric drill. You get enough reach to go up inside the pocket for those pesky track screws at the rear that you can't reach. tim
 
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Yeah pocket doors do not have the best structural integrity, and they are pain to screw sheet rock on, but they do save space and are easily light proofed.
 

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mrcallow said:
I have also built a language all my own. I can speak with a vocabulary of about ten words, 3 or four articles and the rest are used interchangeably as verbs, adjectives, nouns and adverbs. As in: D*** f***ing m****f***ing m****f***er in the f***ing m****f***ing f***.
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Ahhh...I too speak this language. it is usually with a hammer in my hand a swollen thumb and bent roofing nail.

Tim forgot to point out that beer makes a good numbing agent.
 

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The Wing Lynch probably needs a rebuild kit, seals for the mixing valves. The place I got my kit from said they usually need a rebuild every year with regular use. And there is a switch on the board inside that will turn off the beeper.
 
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The Wing Lynch probably needs a rebuild kit, seals for the mixing valves. The place I got my kit from said they usually need a rebuild every year with regular use. And there is a switch on the board inside that will turn off the beeper.

Thanks, I have the rebuild kit and was going to address that next. They are lovely temp controls and I would hate to have to replace it. I like the beeper when the panel is working properly. It is a good warning.

I finished the Hope print processor. It is now clean enough to eat off of. I scrubbed the rollers until I thought my arms were going to fall. I also found the drains for the bleach and and dev tanks. There were two each, neither were documented though. I still need to adjust a roller in one of the wash racks. The gear on one of the rollers on the exit to the drier hops. Over the next day or so I'll see about the roller and run more water through it and go over anything that may cause problems.

I hope to have the WP diagnosed tomorrow and if the rebuild is the fix then I'll do that between now and when the film processor part arrives.

I am getting closer to the end. I had planed to be finished by now and printing, but as in a line from a film I saw recently "If you want to see god smile, tell him your plans"
 
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The wing lynch Film processor is fixed, but the wl water panel is dead. none the less My darkroom is finished for now and it works just fine!

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Thanks John. I feel pretty good about it and I am more than a little geeked about spending some consecutive 18 hour days in it.
 

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John It looks very good lots of room well laid out , room to grow. What I did not see was the beer fridge.
way to go
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I don't need a beer cooler the basement is a constant 65 degrees pefect for storing chems and pale ales.
 
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