Trouble With My Rotary Mf, Lf Developing

Both images were rotary processed. Something is obviously wrong. The horizontal image is a 6x7 developed in a Paterson tank with ID-11 1+1 for 11 minutes with 1500 ml of solution. It's pretty typical of the roll, with the undeveloped area typically in a corner, but to a lesser extent throughout the image. I've also noticed this occasionally in 35 mm. It's never happened with intermittent agitation.
The vertical image is a 4x5 developed (rotary again) in a Jobo tank using 2 litres of HC110 dilution H for 9 minutes. I've had this problem to a lesser extent before, but here it's on all of the 8 images that were developed together. I left the centre slot empty on both reels. The film is Foma 200, but this ain't the film's fault!
In both cases the film was loaded correctly - I checked before removing the film. Also, I reverse the rotation about half way through the development and fixing.
I'm obviously doing something very wrong here. I can fix it on the 6x7 by forgetting the rotary bit and just doing intermittent agitation, but can I do that with the Jobo reels or are they designed strictly for rotary processing?
Any other ideas on what me and/or the machine is doing wrong?
The rollers turn Jobo tank (4x5) at 38 rpm, and the Paterson (6x7) at 48 rpm.
Location
Kicking Horse River and Selkirk Range
Equipment Used
RB67 and Toyo 4x5
Exposure
in the ballpark
On this shot it looks like a light leak from the camera, or the holder. Most likely when you removed the darkslide you lifted the corner a bit. The film holder shaded the very edge which is why it doesn't go all the way to the edge of the frame.
 
Has to be a light leak as Gebhardt has said. Check the sheath of the dark-slides for cracks (English - or dark-slides of the film holder US)
I've had cracks that cause this, you need to identify which dark-slide was used, also double check the bellows with a torch at night.

Ian
 
Yes, especially since leak is on the slit side of the holder & shot was made in bright light. I usually use my darkcloth to shade the holder as I retract the darkslide, and then drape it over the holder, just for added insurance. Nice shot, though, hope you can get back there!
 
I ruled out a light leak because a) the film holders are pretty new; b) it showed up on every one of the eight photos I developed, which means the problem would have to be on each side of 4 holders; and c) because of the properly exposed area next to the border. There are no cracks that I can see, and I've checked the bellows recently. Now I'm wondering if I loaded the film properly. It took a hell of a tug to get each of the films out. I don't know how easy it is to load them wrong, but if it's possible I'm the one to do it. If so, I guess that would explain the light leaks.
It's a nice day, albeit cold (-10C) so I'm going to reload the film holders and try again. Unfortunately I won't be able to retake some of the pictures, at least not this year.
Thanks for all the help guys. I would have been looking for the solution in the completely wrong direction.
 
If its on each of the Negs, its more likely to be your bellows leaking

Rack out the Bellows to their full extent and then in the dark use a torch (flashlight) placed inside the bellows to look for leaks

Good luck

Martin
 
I reloaded the film and took six more pictures. Came home, developed the pictures with the same result. Got out the flashlight and looked for leaks. Couldn't find a one. However, in the course of doing this, something seemed backwards. The camera (Toyo) has a rotatable back. It occurred to me that maybe I had moved the back 180 degrees and was loading it from the wrong side. Reloaded, went out on the deck and took 4 pictures, developed them and guess what. No leaks. I didn't realize you could load it from the wrong side until I noticed the two sides were different. I have no idea why this hasn't happened to me much earlier in this LF adventure.
Now, where's that thread entitled, "Dumb things I have done with my LF". On second thought, this is enough public acknowledgement of my dumbness.
Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I was convinced it was something to do with the development.
 

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