My buddy has a Nikon F4s in mint condition that he bought brand new shortly after they hit the market. I think that camera only has 25 rolls of film through it (more than half of that in my hands). He is thinking of selling it to me but doesn't know what it's worth. It's a Nikon F4s, SB-24, 35-70mm f3.5-4.5 AF (???), 70-210mm f4 AF, and a camera bag. I'm trying to figure out what I should offer him. He knows that film cameras are selling for pennies on the dollar these days. I hate looking on eBay for prices as it's akin to buying stock: one day it's good, one day it's not without rhyme nor reason. Buy-it-nows can be crazy as some people think their gear is worth what they put the BIN price at when similar items are selling at auction for half that. I need another 35mm camera like I need a hole in my head but that camera is such a nice piece of gear that I cannot resist. This is actually my second choice in 35mm cameras but I can't see paying the prices that used F2's command these days. My cousin has a well used F2A that he's thinking of selling but his shrewd wife knows that it is worth some money so he won't let it go for less than current market value even to me. Too bad the DW-2 waist-level finder won't fit the F4. I still have a pair of old Nikon fixed focal manual focus lenses that would work great with either camera and I have my own SB-24 that would allow me to do multiple flash setups for even more creative control with the connecting cables that I already have.