hi all, once again i must call upon your collected wisdom to get me out of a fix. i was doing my first lith prints this weekend and decided to try out some bleach redeveloping. i was using fotospeed ld20 and some bleach from a speedibrews chestnut toner. i have two problems with 2 prints. first - i printed/dev/stop/fixed normally and put the print into the bleach. it was at this point i realised i didnt know how much to bleach. do i bleach until theres nothing left on the print or do i just bleach until the print looks flat and grey? after a while i put the print back into the lith and the print that resulted had very swirly patterns on it. second - again i printed/stopped/fixed as usual, bleached the print and washed it then put it into the toner. the print just kept getting lighter and no toning occurred. not really sure whats going on. I dont really know about bleaching. Does anyone have any bleaching tips/pointers on what bleach to get hold of?